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That might work for some people but there will always be those who are obsessed with guns. They will get ammo from somewhere. It will drive the price up and the suppliers will become criminals, that's all.
These people need to get a grip. These men whose sense of masculinity is bolstered by owning a gun.
Oh my... better tell the many women I competitively shoot with, that their masculinity is bolstered by owning a gun.
No you cannot. I have attended 10 gun shows this year so far. Guess what?! You need to have a background check performed 4473 filled out, and the seller has an internet connection at the Booth when selling firearms to perform NICS checks.
GUESS WHAT ELSE!? Theres local police and sheriffs deputies present at them! Oh my this gun show loophole lie needs to go down in flames as the biggest perpetuated lie ever.
Individual private sale, The few I have partaken in, I do a transfer in a gun store or pawn shop.
I pay for it. Im not buying a burner. Nor am I selling to a potential felon or anyone ineligible to own a fire arm. Its your risk if you want to sell without a back ground check. Its your risk if you want to buy without a background check. Your name was on the 4473 for that fire arm. You sell it without another 4473 transfer done, and someone else uses it in crime, it comes back on you.
BUT sleepy seems to think that gun traces currently do not work... because they currently are via paper... and not on the interwebs database that can be breached...
And as for confiscation of fire arms... Wasnt it... Oregon... That just passed a law where if you are SUSPECTED of being violent, without due process your firearms may be ceased?
That is a STATE law issue, not a federal law issue. It all depends on how the state handles firearm search and seizure...
Wrong again my friend...
Unlicensed sellers can sell guns without background checks unless state law prohibits it, gun shows are full of unlicensed sellers, my husband use to rent a booth at the Reno gun shows.
These types of threads just go on and on - and no one listens to reason or the facts.
Lefties always say "why can't we politicize these shootings?" - my response is: there is nothing to politicize, since the 2nd Amendment isn't negotiable. That's why we remain steadfast. There is nothing to talk about. So deal with mental health and the media making these guys famous, because that is the only areas that really need addressing.
There are no compromises. I agree with a poster who said earlier, if law enforcement disarms, then I will disarm.
The 2nd Amendment is what it is. However, there is nothing in it, or SCOTUS decisions, that says magazine size can't be curtailed, is there?
Yes, this is a mistake, no doubt about it, but do any of you honestly believe this tragedy could have been prevented?
How many more people have the military neglected to report to the FBI because of administrative incompetence? Probably some, but Not as many as gun shows let out the door without even asking for ID
I'd stop paying into social security tomorrow and take back every penny I ever paid into it too.
I think you missed my point. Social Security currently has all of your data in a computerized database, according to you we can't allow ATF to use computers for 4473 data because computers can be "breached". So why aren't you asoutraged about Social Security using computers?
I think you missed my point. Social Security currently has all of your data in a computerized database, according to you we can't allow ATF to use computers for 4473 data because computers can be "breached". So why aren't you asoutraged about Social Security using computers?
No you missed my point entirely.
I'm not opposed to the social security going stone-age. Its infallible that way. No risk of hackers getting information when its in paper format in cardboard boxed catalogs... Unless of course someone throws a lit cigarette in there... then... there's a problem. Or mice... Solution to both, keep the records in a vacuum sealed vault. That would solve degradation of records. Hacker proof. Fire Proof. Mouse proof.
Why round up all the guns when you can just cut off the supply of ammo. Within a few years there would be no ammo left and your guns would be useless.
You don't know me, or many Americans like me. I'm not going to talk about what I do or do not have on a forum like this but let's just say I'm okay in that department.
And do you honestly think of the 100 million+ strong of us who have firearms, that we don't have the necessary means (ammo) to use them? lol
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What would you be fighting for?
What were the men who founded and started this country fighting for?
Did you know it came to light last week that our federal bureaucrats are getting paid by FOREIGN GOVERNMENT LOBBYISTS, in an effort to undermine us as American citizens?
Does that bother you...even a little?
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