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The beauty of America is that every citizen has the right to ignore any law with which they do not agree without repercussions. I think that’s enshrined in the 30th or maybe the 31st Amendment.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Why would people in modern society be criticized for not knowing the difference between buck shot and bullets, assault weapons and machine guns? What grown up actually thinks not having knowledge of this crap makes much if any difference in the debate?
I was speaking to states that have more stringent concealed carry requirements, we don't need someone from another state walking around NY City with a gun.
But this is exactly the problem; just like NY_refugee87 was indicating, what is legal in one state, say Virginia, I have a Carry Conceal Permit for Virginia, I can carry A Concealed Hand Gun in Virginia, I am not violating the law. My Virginia Carry Conceal permit is recognized in over 30 states with a Carry Conceal Reciprocity. Again all legal.
Now if I choose to visit family some of my family in New York, I cross in to New York while still caring my gun; now I am a felon. I still have a valid Carry Conceal Permit. The problem is New York will not recognize it.
With out a standardization of the firearm laws, these kind of problems will happen.
Now if Virginia state government is OK with me owning a gun; and the Virginia State government is ok with me carry a gun; Why is New York State Government more important.
The Carry Conceal Reciprocity needs to be in place; I do agree if I use my firearm in a unlawful manor; such as open up in a crowd; then I should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But just crossing a border should not be illegal.
And that is exactly what we have with firearms laws at this point. A convoluted mess.
What makes NYC more special than St Augustine Orlando or Miami? Places I've carried is NYC something special? It isnt...
That's up to Florida, NY doesn't need any run of the mill gun owner with a basic license walking around Times Square or riding on the subway. Law enforcement here wants no part of reciprocal carry.
That's up to Florida, wee don't need any run of the mill gun owner with a basic license walking around a Times Square or riding on the subway. Law enforcement here wants no part of reciprocal carry.
You're not citing any logical reason.
In NY If I had a pistol permit I was fine in the entire state of NY except NYC. I'll ask again.
What makes NYC so special?
And speaking in terms of law enforcement... you're not speaking for all. I have 2 friends who are NYPD who disagree...
So I say again. What makes NYC so special?
And why isn't my constitutionally protected right recognized in the state of NY? But my drivers license is?
That's up to Florida, NY doesn't need any run of the mill gun owner with a basic license walking around Times Square or riding on the subway. Law enforcement here wants no part of reciprocal carry.
But that is exactly the point, there needs to be a standardization of the permit process, there needs to be a standardization of the laws.
Making a person a felon for crossing into another state, because now the laws regarding a object differ from state to state; makes no sense.
But this is exactly the problem; just like NY_refugee87 was indicating, what is legal in one state, say Virginia, I have a Carry Conceal Permit for Virginia, I can carry A Concealed Hand Gun in Virginia, I am not violating the law. My Virginia Carry Conceal permit is recognized in over 30 states with a Carry Conceal Reciprocity. Again all legal.
Now if I choose to visit family some of my family in New York, I cross in to New York while still caring my gun; now I am a felon. I still have a valid Carry Conceal Permit. The problem is New York will not recognize it.
With out a standardization of the firearm laws, these kind of problems will happen.
Now if Virginia state government is OK with me owning a gun; and the Virginia State government is ok with me carry a gun; Why is New York State Government more important.
The Carry Conceal Reciprocity needs to be in place; I do agree if I use my firearm in a unlawful manor; such as open up in a crowd; then I should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But just crossing a border should not be illegal.
And that is exactly what we have with firearms laws at this point. A convoluted mess.
Will every state brings their concealed requirement up to the standard of places like NY, there are some states that have no requirement at all. Either way NYC doesn't need another million guns flowing in from outside states, they have a difficult enough time as is.
If someone isn't aware of the rules of other states they probably get what they deserve.
Why would people in modern society be criticized for not knowing the difference between buck shot and bullets, assault weapons and machine guns? What grown up actually thinks not having knowledge of this crap makes much if any difference in the debate?
I am a Liberal and a firm supporter of the 2nd A. That said, if one is going to argue restricting or banning an item then they should know something about the topic, otherwise they are arguing their point based on ignorance. Seems pretty simple to me.
Will every state brings their concealed requirement up to the standard of places like NY, there are some states that have no requirement at all. Either way NYC doesn't need another million guns flowing in from outside states, they have a difficult enough time as is.
If someone isn't aware of the rules of other states they probably get what they deserve.
That's all you have? Require an expensive ridiculous process to carry out rights?
Nah.
No dice. If it's legal in any state, it's legal in NY. NY and CA are not special. They are not special or anointed.
Why do you hate freedom so much?
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is NYC something special? It isnt...
