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In the first place, this is exactly what happened.
They refused to cater an event. They didn't refused to sell to the couple at all.
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In the second place, given your belief that businesses can pick and choose, this might not be the nation for you.
My belief is what the country was based on. The idea that whatever you own you control. If I decide to not serve whites then I should have that chioce. The free market will decide whether I can sustain my business with that chioce.
The baker was not asked to cater an event. A couple customers wanted to purchase a cake, like the cakes that they sold to other customers.
Your belief is not what the country was based on. The country was based on the rule of law. Constitution. Bill of Rights. Any of that ring a bell?
Check out the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution requiring that states guarantee the same rights, privileges, and protections to all citizens.
The baker was not asked to cater an event. A couple customers wanted to purchase a cake, like the cakes that they sold to other customers.
If this is the sane event I'm thinking of then they wanted the bakery to write something on that cake. So they weren't denying service to the cuople at all just for that particular reason
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Your belief is not what the country was based on. The country was based on the rule of law. Constitution. Bill of Rights. Any of that ring a bell?
The Bill of Rights which repeatedly states that I have the right to life, liberty, and property. So yes, ojr coubtry is basedon the idea that you can do anything with your own property provided that you don't infringe on other people's rights.
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Check out the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution requiring that states guarantee the same rights, privileges, and protections to all citizens.
Obviously, we have a ways to go.
But we are getting there.
That's a requirement on government, not private individuals. I'm a huge advocate of the second amendment, but I can't force business owners to allow me to carry if they don't want to.
The baker was not asked to cater an event. A couple customers wanted to purchase a cake, like the cakes that they sold to other customers.
Your belief is not what the country was based on. The country was based on the rule of law. Constitution. Bill of Rights. Any of that ring a bell?
Check out the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution requiring that states guarantee the same rights, privileges, and protections to all citizens.
Obviously, we have a ways to go.
But we are getting there.
I think freedom of religion will prove impossible to get around. The hobby lobby decision already shows what the justices believe.
Shall make no law and shall not infringe ...
Some activist judges just don't get the point.
It will get slapped down.
If this is the sane event I'm thinking of then they wanted the bakery to write something on that cake. So they weren't denying service to the cuople at all just for that particular reason
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Nope. That was another self-righteous baker. You are probably thinking about the two men in Colorado.
This case is about two women in Oregon who wanted to purchase a raspberry dream cake.
IIRC, this raspberry dream cake was one of this bakery's speciality cakes, and the mother of one of the brides had bought one in the past.
Sadly, they never got as far as discussing about writing as the baker turned them away, claiming he was a Christian. He also insulted them. Called them "abominations" as I recall.
I don't believe he was actually a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ. At one time, I read quite a bit about Christ, and I don't ever recall anything about him encouraging people to insult others. Don't recall reading where he said anything about homosexuality either.
Christ encouraged people to be loving and accepting, not judgmental and rude.
So I'm not sure what religion this baker practices.
They should have just made them the crappiest cake ever. Double up on the crucial ingredients. If you can leave out half the ingredients in your marriage, then surely you won't mind a cake made the same way.
I did not read this thread, but I believe when any business is dealing with the public, they should leave their religious beliefs at home, and also leave the problems of the business at the business, and not bring them home.
Pretty simple rule to follow.
Bob.
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