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Old 01-02-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trump has greased more then a few palms to get where he is today before he became president. He's just as crooked as she is. The fact that you all choose to ignore that fact is beyond the rest of us.

And since Trump has never been a politician before that needed to be greased, he kinda does know how it works to bring it all down to its knees... and is doing it and that is what the establishment is scared to death of. All the corruption and backroom dealing getting fully exposed as he did with the JFK files they begged him not to release.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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I've been seeing the name "Felix Sater" floating around Twitter today.
there are articles about trump's relationship with sater going back a year. anything specifically new?

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The left is claiming Sater is working with Mueller and will deal a major blow to Trump's presidency.
not surprising that mueller is interviewing sater. have to wait and see if he's cooperating and it's impact it has.

welcome to the forum.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My point was Trump said Obama wiretapped him. That wasn't true.
Obama is the head of the FBI and the CIA when he was in office.

If they are investigating why did they go to the White House with the information if Obama did not ask to wiretap Trump and is associates? It is clear Obama knew about it and was informed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/u...tion.html?_r=1

The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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[quote=BentBow;50575071]


And since Trump has never been a politician before that needed to be greased, he kinda does know how it works to bring it all down to its knees... and is doing it and that is what the establishment is scared to death of.


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The ONLY reason that Trump ran for president is to make himself and those around him even more money. He doesn't care about ANYONE but himself and odds are he would sell him mom for enough money. Trump is a salesmen a con man and he has sold everyone who voted for him a bill of good it's what he does. It's what they ALL do it doesn't matter which party in question.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The ONLY reason that Trump ran for president is to make himself and those around him even more money. He doesn't care about ANYONE but himself and odds are he would sell him mom for enough money. Trump is a salesmen a con man and he has sold everyone who voted for him a bill of good it's what he does. It's what they ALL do it doesn't matter which party in question.


Who told you that? The guy just gave himself a huge tax increase because he owns a lot of properties in high property tax states.
He is giving his salary away.
He stays at his own properties when he travels, at no charge to taxpayers.
He pays for all jet fuel, to travel.

Sure he is helping businesses. It just so happens he was a businessman before.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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[quote=reed067;50575236][quote=BentBow;50575071

The ONLY reason that Trump ran for president is to make himself and those around him even more money. He doesn't care about ANYONE but himself and odds are he would sell him mom for enough money. Trump is a salesmen a con man and he has sold everyone who voted for him a bill of good it's what he does. It's what they ALL do it doesn't matter which party in question.[/QUOTE]

This ^^^^^^^^
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Who told you that? The guy just gave himself a huge tax increase because he owns a lot of properties in high property tax states. e is giving his salary away.
He stays at his own properties when he travels, at no charge to taxpayers.
He pays for all jet fuel, to travel. Sure he is helping businesses. It just so happens he was a businessman before.
He gave himself a "huge tax increase"? You can't possibly be that naive....

"In 2005, Trump reported $109 million in income from closely held partnerships and small businesses. At a 40 percent individual tax rate, Trump owed $43.6 million in taxes on the income. But at the new, lower rate of 25 percent, Trump would have owed more than $27 million in taxes, a savings for him of more than $16 million. Over a decade, Trump could potentially save hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes by paying the new, lower rate."
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/here...-tax-bill.html
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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As I stated in a different thread, accessing and using data without the owner's permission, is illegal.

That's true whether the data is paper in a file cabinet (like in Watergate) or is electronically stored in a server.

There is no question that whoever (Russians, Wikileaks) accessed and stole the emails in the DNC server committed a crime.

Accepting and using data that you know is stolen is a crime. How could anyone, even the lowest echelon Trump campaign staffer, not know the DNC emails were stolen data?

Attempting to cover up that crime or obstruct an investigation into it is an even more serious crime. Are you old enough to remember Watergate? Or the theft of Dr. Fielding's files on Daniel Ellsberg?


Simple enough? I didn't once use the word "collusion".
you just blindly trust the CIA and the Pentagon and the FBI and the NSA, all organizations that have betrayed you and sent our kids to die, supported brutal dictators and gassed children.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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you just blindly trust the CIA and the Pentagon and the FBI and the NSA, all organizations that have betrayed you and sent our kids to die, supported brutal dictators and gassed children.
And you trust the serial liar Trump? wow..just wow
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He gave himself a "huge tax increase"? You can't possibly be that naive....

"In 2005, Trump reported $109 million in income from closely held partnerships and small businesses. At a 40 percent individual tax rate, Trump owed $43.6 million in taxes on the income. But at the new, lower rate of 25 percent, Trump would have owed more than $27 million in taxes, a savings for him of more than $16 million. Over a decade, Trump could potentially save hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes by paying the new, lower rate."
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/here...-tax-bill.html


You saying he doesn't have a lot of properties in high tax states, that he no longer gets to write off the property taxes and will now be paying more tax, without the rich boy loopholes, that Chuck Schumer, Liz Warren, Nancy Pelosi, have benefited from for years.
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