Trump stil believes that Mexico will pay for wall. (wages, enemies, Alabama)
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I have a very good relationship with Mexico. But yes, in some form, Mexico will pay for the wall.”
Mexico has repeatedly stated that it will not pay to build the wall.
“I believe Mexico will pay for the wall,” Trump said during a brief news conference at Camp David, where he was meeting congressional Republican leaders to plan for 2018 midterms.
Very simple and this has been discussed several times. Tax the remittances going to Mexico. $27 billion in 2017 and the Mexican economy is very dependent on that money. You can raise billions a year. Much of this money is from under the table work or drug deal transfers and is untaxed as it stands now.
So yes its very easy for Mexico to pay for the wall and not us.
That $18 billion is only a down payment on the massive amount of money a wall is going to cost. It will cover a mere 316 miles of the 2,000 miles of border. Do the math and then come back and tell us what it's really going to cost taxpayers. And that's not counting the cost of the myriad of lawsuits that the project will face regarding the government's ham-handed use of eminent domain in an attempt to steal property from U.S. citizens.
$18 billion is a drop in the bucket of what this black hole of a project will cost in the long run, to say nothing of the massive amount of money it will require to maintain in perpetuity.
And tariffs will hurt Americans more than they'll hurt Mexico, who will simply take their business elsewhere. Yeah, that's showing them, all right, huh? Good grief, what utter nonsense.
Mexico needs us way more than we need them. From remittances to trade, tourism etc. Geographically where else are they going to go? Are they going to compete with China and trade with Europe on all the stuff they send here? How about fresh produce. How is that getting to Europe the same way it comes across the border to here.
But if a trade war breaks out and if we pulled all our factories out and made all those things here it would boost our economy overall. Their's would collapse.
And I thought the left was all for jobs programs? Where do you think the $18 billion will be spent? A big part of it will be on labor to build the wall. That was Obama's big thing creating jobs by the federal government spending money. Now that Trump wants to do it, its suddenly a bad idea.
Imagine what Trump could have accomplished without the all out war declared on him by the dems and media. Any other human would have withered and died under that lopsided onslaught. Makes trump appear the superman the media claimed obama was with all the love and cuddingly that had even chris mathews declaring obama sent a tingle uphis leg.
Lol... Trump has had a lifetime to accomplish things, and up until he ran as a Republican, he was nothing but a "reasonably rich" oaf who had: squandered his inheritance, gone bankrupt multiple times while leaving others holding the bag, failed to pay his taxes, dodged the draft, used women like disposable sex objects (when not outright assaulting them), and otherwise failed to achieve even basic levels of human decency that one would expect from a working class nobody, much less from some rich brat. He was an immature, outraged, blustering blowhard with the intellectual depth of a puddle and the temper of a brat who just had his lollipop taken away. And EVERYONE knew this, so are we going to pretend that this was all the "media" who traveled back in time to "declare war on him" years ago before he even ran for office?
Get a grip, people! The cultists currently praising him wouldn't have trusted Trump a few years ago with their retirement accounts, homes for a weekend, or wife or daughter for one night. But now they are going to forget reality and play pretend, claiming that Trump is wonderful.
Mexico paying for the wall is the easy part. Trump has the authority to just place duties on Mexican goods. If the wall were to get the funding it would tank the peso offsetting any increase in costs to US consumers/businesses. We also have a ton of leverage over mexico in the NAFTA negotiations. Pull out of NAFTA it tanks the peso. The hard part is finding 9 democrats in the Senate to agree to the wall funding.
Lol... Trump has had a lifetime to accomplish things, and up until he ran as a Republican, he was nothing but a "reasonably rich" oaf who had: squandered his inheritance, gone bankrupt multiple times while leaving others holding the bag, failed to pay his taxes, dodged the draft, used women like disposable sex objects (when not outright assaulting them), and otherwise failed to achieve even basic levels of human decency that one would expect from a working class nobody, much less from some rich brat. He was an immature, outraged, blustering blowhard with the intellectual depth of a puddle and the temper of a brat who just had his lollipop taken away. And EVERYONE knew this, so are we going to pretend that this was all the "media" who traveled back in time to "declare war on him" years ago before he even ran for office?
Get a grip, people! The cultists currently praising him wouldn't have trusted Trump a few years ago with their retirement accounts, homes for a weekend, or wife or daughter for one night. But now they are going to forget reality and play pretend, claiming that Trump is wonderful.
Cult 45 indeed.
And he beat the best the Democrats and Republicans put up against him. Even according to bend over boy Obama, Hillary was the most qualified to ever run for the office. Just the facts
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"The Wall" is an oversimple solution, and that at best. I can sort of understand the emotional appeal of it, but the fact is that people will find ways around that wall - unless you want the US to turn into an East Germany in reverse (i.e. using landmines and machine gun nests to keep people out, rather than keeping people from leaving as in East Germany's case).
1. People can forge documents, and thus fool security. 2. People can build black-clothed and black-basketed balloons to get over at night, when the wind is right. 3. Submarines. Drug dealers used them to get drugs into this country, so why not illegal immigrants? 4. Tunnel under the wall. Even the 19th century half-educated miners knew what it takes to make a reasonably stable and safe mine shaft. With modern internet access, any half-way educated person can find out what it takes to make a long tunnel structurally secure.
Hell, even our prisoners in the state pen come up with ingeniously simple ways to get stuff into and out of prison, despite security precautions. They've thought of more ways to do this and that than most people on this thread could even imagine.
So no, a wall is not gonna keep illegal immigrants out. Also, are US-born poor people going to pick the fruit and vegetables? Or do any other things usually considered the jobs of poor foreigners? Alabama and Georgia cracked down really hard on both employers hiring illegals and the illegals themselves - result being lots of unpicked rotting produce in the fields, millions of dollars worth.
No, there simply has to be a continent-wide solution to this problem. At any rate, there is more outmigration from the US to Mexico than the reverse.
"The Wall" is just a sleight of hand move, designed to appeal to our kneejerk reptilian brainstem's desire for immediately visible and obvious solutions. It may seem sensible on the surface, but in the end, won't work. The REAL issue is a shabby education and job training system (especially in terms of affordability), no coherent government economic development policy (Germany has a great worker training program. We should learn from them), and a tax and subsidy policy favoring the wealthy ("wealth-fare"), barerly keeping the middle class afloat (if at all), and just enough to the poor to keep them from starting an armed revolution. Let's focus on this instead of looking for scapegoats to sling feces at.
"The Wall" is an oversimple solution, and that at best. I can sort of understand the emotional appeal of it, but the fact is that people will find ways around that wall -
Same argument can be made for having a lock on your front door. There are all kinds of ways to get inside your home. Yet you would be considered an idiot if you just leave your front door wide open when you are not home.
Put aside illegal immigration. Heroine and Meth are flowing across the border at its weak spots. Billions of dollars in drugs harming our citizens and enriching the cartels who do horrible things to the Mexican citizens.
So if your bleeding liberal heart bleeds for the Mexicans and others crossing out in the desert perhaps it should bleed for Americans dying from these horrible drugs. And the Mexicans dying because the ruthless cartels will stop at nothing to move their merchandise.
And I know that making it harder for Meth and H to enter the country won't stop their use but it will make it more complicated. Right now they bribe the Mexican officials and get the H into the country. The Ephedrine for Meth can be brought in that way also. And more bribes to keep Mexican law enforcement from shutting the operations down. Cross the open border and its in our backyard.
Lol... Trump has had a lifetime to accomplish things, and up until he ran as a Republican, he was nothing but a "reasonably rich" oaf who had: squandered his inheritance, gone bankrupt multiple times while leaving others holding the bag, failed to pay his taxes, dodged the draft, used women like disposable sex objects (when not outright assaulting them), and otherwise failed to achieve even basic levels of human decency that one would expect from a working class nobody, much less from some rich brat. He was an immature, outraged, blustering blowhard with the intellectual depth of a puddle and the temper of a brat who just had his lollipop taken away. And EVERYONE knew this, so are we going to pretend that this was all the "media" who traveled back in time to "declare war on him" years ago before he even ran for office?
Get a grip, people! The cultists currently praising him wouldn't have trusted Trump a few years ago with their retirement accounts, homes for a weekend, or wife or daughter for one night. But now they are going to forget reality and play pretend, claiming that Trump is wonderful.
Cult 45 indeed.
Yet Democrats, including Hillary, had no issue with him, even attended his wedding.
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