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Old 01-15-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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Russia absolutely affected our election, and if they had not Trump would not be president. Period.

ALL of that is true. BUT....it doesn't make Trump illegitimate. People voted, and choose. Maybe they were influenced by Russian propaganda etc, but the bottom line is...people voted. The votes weren't hacked. He is our legitimate president.

We need to do something about the Russian efforts though.



How did Russia cause people to vote for Trump
Over Hillary?



Please explain
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Russia absolutely affected our election, and if they had not Trump would not be president. Period.
Yet nobody seems to know how, or have any evidence, or facts to support that.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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How did Russia cause people to vote for Trump
Over Hillary?



Please explain
Hacked DNC
Excellent propaganda-see both twitter and Facebook bots

etc etc

This is all well known, heck Facebook even has a tool to see if you have been shown Russian propaganda.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/22/...sparency-tool/

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Yet nobody seems to know how, or have any evidence, or facts to support that.
See above. You folks are literally denying reality.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Yeah, who cares if Russia interfered with our election? Which even if there was not collusion with the Trump campaign (which remains to be seen once the Mueller investigation is done), we already know that Russia did interfere and it's been confirmed by both the GOP and Democratic leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee who has been doing their own investigation.

But no biggie, right? Doesn't matter that they are planning to try again this year and that they've attempted to interfere in other countries as well.
Where's the evidence that the Russians "interfered" with the election? Where? None has been found, and there is zero evidence of "collusion." You say we already know. According to whom?

How many years are we going to let this charade go on? This "investigation" is corrupt to the core, as every participant is a Democrat and donor to the DNC if not the Hillary campaign.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Hacked DNC
Excellent propaganda-see both twitter and Facebook bots

etc etc

This is all well known, heck Facebook even has a tool to see if you have been shown Russian propaganda.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/22/...sparency-tool/



See above. You folks are literally denying reality.
I'm glad you can make yourself feel better about the huge Clinton loss.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:07 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Russia absolutely affected our election, and if they had not Trump would not be president. Period.

ALL of that is true. BUT....it doesn't make Trump illegitimate. People voted, and choose. Maybe they were influenced by Russian propaganda etc, but the bottom line is...people voted. The votes weren't hacked. He is our legitimate president.

We need to do something about the Russian efforts though.
Maybe thank them we didn't get the crooked one as president. Surely made me happy.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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I'm glad you can make yourself feel better about the huge Clinton loss.
So, you ask for proof. I provide it. Your response? A nonsensical attack on me. Got it!

Im glad you can feel better by ignoring reality and facts even when they are provided so clearly. Its funny how you and NCN provided the same sort of attack after being provided evidence.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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So, you ask for proof. I provide it. Your response? A nonsensical attack on me. Got it!

Im glad you can feel better by ignoring reality and facts even when they are provided so clearly. Its funny how you and NCN provided the same sort of attack after being provided evidence.



You provided zero proof that Trump voters only voted for him because of Russia. And how a few Facebook ads overcame Hillary's billion dollar campaign and having the media in her side
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So, you ask for proof. I provide it. Your response? A nonsensical attack on me. Got it!

Im glad you can feel better by ignoring reality and facts even when they are provided so clearly. Its funny how you and NCN provided the same sort of attack after being provided evidence.
This is Trump's biggest legacy - a generation of people who disdain facts that don't comport with their beliefs. It's kind of scary, really.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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So, you ask for proof. I provide it. Your response? A nonsensical attack on me. Got it!

Im glad you can feel better by ignoring reality and facts even when they are provided so clearly. Its funny how you and NCN provided the same sort of attack after being provided evidence.
That’s not proof, it’s a theory. A theory that reeks of desperation.
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