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Old 01-24-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Do you honestly believe that those "at the top" and say Disney ride operators deserve anywhere near the same compensation or bonus? Heck, most of the employees making 12 bucks an hour probably do not pay Federal Tax anyway so no tax break is going to help them.
It is an unfortunate byproduct of having a 'Medium of Exchange' that Doctors, Lawyers, members of the Executive Branch, could demand more of that Medium than ... workers. When the Grid goes down you will only be as good as what you DO. A lot of Doctors and Executives are going to starve to death when they find out just how vitally important (or rare) what they actually do is worth on the (truly) Free Market.

 
Old 01-24-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Living wage in Orlando is $11.51/hr

I've found in that in the free market people are generally paid what they are worth. I haven't met too many people making $12/hr that have any marketable skills that should translate into a 6 figure salary.
What about the people making six figures? What marketable skills do they have? I could show you two people. Exact same skill set and schooling. One is making $220K/yr. and the other is making $85K/yr. Why?
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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What about the people making six figures? What marketable skills do they have? I could show you two people. Exact same skill set and schooling. One is making $220K/yr. and the other is making $85K/yr. Why?
Drive? Work ethic?
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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What about the people making six figures? What marketable skills do they have? I could show you two people. Exact same skill set and schooling. One is making $220K/yr. and the other is making $85K/yr. Why?
Why don't you tell us why they should be making the same?
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Because it is chicken feed. These one-time bonus giveaways are nothing more than PR stunt.

When businesses start increasing wages, then I will be impressed.
Chicken feed? 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings and almost 40% have NOTHING in saving. How can you say $1000- $2500 is worthless. SMH LOl

Liberals are so out of touch with reality, and that's why Republicans are in charge.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Chicken feed? 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings and almost 40% have NOTHING in saving. How can you say $1000- $2500 is worthless. SMH LOl

Liberals are so out of touch with reality, and that's why Republicans are in charge.
Raise their wages instead of giving them a token "bonus." $1,000 over the course of a year is going to do NOTHING to help them build up their savings. But a decent pay increase would.

But no one expects the fat cats in the executive suite to forego their millions of dollars of bonuses they're going to give themselves from this windfall for the working people who make their fortunes for them.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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Chicken feed? 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings and almost 40% have NOTHING in saving. How can you say $1000- $2500 is worthless. SMH LOl

Liberals are so out of touch with reality, and that's why Republicans are in charge.
Because next year, when the honeymoon phase of this tax cut ends and businesses start looking for new ways to increase profitability in order to satisfy shareholders, bonuses will fade and workers will be left right back where they started.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Raise their wages instead of giving them a token "bonus." $1,000 over the course of a year is going to do NOTHING to help them build up their savings. But a decent pay increase would.

But no one expects the fat cats in the executive suite to forego their millions of dollars of bonuses they're going to give themselves from this windfall for the working people who make their fortunes for them.
What makes you think they aren't getting raises too? I actually worked for Disney for a few years and me and everyone else I worked with got annual increases every years that were usually 3-6% and worked out to much more then $1000/year. I would assume employees are still getting raises this year along with the $1000 bonus.

How much of a raise do you thing people should get for doing the job they were hired to do? Should these companies give everyone a $10k/year bump? $20k? Times 100k employees?
 
Old 01-24-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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What makes you think they aren't getting raises too? I actually worked for Disney for a few years and me and everyone else I worked with got annual increases every years that were usually 3-6% and worked out to much more then $1000/year. I would assume employees are still getting raises this year along with the $1000 bonus.

How much of a raise do you thing people should get for doing the job they were hired to do? Should these companies give everyone a $10k/year bump? $20k? Times 100k employees?
Thank you.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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What makes you think they aren't getting raises too? I actually worked for Disney for a few years and me and everyone else I worked with got annual increases every years that were usually 3-6% and worked out to much more then $1000/year. I would assume employees are still getting raises this year along with the $1000 bonus.

How much of a raise do you thing people should get for doing the job they were hired to do? Should these companies give everyone a $10k/year bump? $20k? Times 100k employees?
Ah the old cherry pick an anecdotal bit of hyperbole to shame the susceptible into doubting their own common sense ploy. All those ride operators and concessions sellers are underpaid from go, by several hundred percent, and whether there are 100K of them or even a million, a going concern like Disney could pay their ride operators 3% year over year COL increase for another two decades and not catch up, and incidentally not feel it financially. Do they? Does your landlord shy away from a 3% year over year increase? How about the coffee you drink? 50 things at your supermarket? Your mechanic? Fast food? Cut flowers? Your dentist? Hygienist? Your kids college(s)? Why is it only employers don't need to feel bad if they keep the wages they pay fixed at the point the contract was signed at? Why don't retailers on the supply side feel obligated to hold prices? See, you're not the only one who can play Hyperbole Semantics at the advanced level.
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