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What Trump put out this morning is just the first shot in preparing the battlefield for negotiating a deal. Meanwhile people are going apoplectic about how this is the end, how great it is, he's a sellout, the end of Republicans, Democrats forced into a corner, yada yada yada.
Pass the popcorn please, this is going to be a long one.
We could have started that last year. We can do that anytime we want. We will not and people want to blame everyone but who is to blame for not doing it.
They have built an enormous database, and a tracking system of licence plates, which will be used by ICE.
Exclusive: ICE is about to start tracking license plates across the US
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking, raising significant concerns from civil libertarians.
It's not the job of the cities to do. You are also speaking about a minuscule number of people. The Feds could deal with them but for whatever reason has refused to do so. It is not the cities that are the problem here. They can not deport anyone and most are deported and simply come back.
Not talking about cities deporting them, just about city officials reporting to the Feds that they have taken an illegal into custody. Let the Feds come in and do the job of deporting.
If a city policeman sees a crime being committed, is it not his/her job to do something about it? All I'm asking is that the cops pick up a phone and call ICE so that they can deal with the immigration issue. That isn't too much to ask, is it?
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking, raising significant concerns from civil libertarians.
What this says is it is not about illegals. It's about trying to control the citizens no matter how far they have to go to do it. This does little to nothing about the illegal problem.
Not talking about cities deporting them, just about city officials reporting to the Feds that they have taken an illegal into custody. Let the Feds come in and do the job of deporting.
A city is not able to determine whether or not someone is here illegally. There have been many cases where cities have informed the feds and they have done nothing. They have done nothing because they really can't. The feds have nowhere to hold illegals so they let them go with the expectation that they will show up for their deportation hearing in a couple years.
Cities are saying they can not afford to do the feds job for them so screw it.
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If a city policeman sees a crime being committed, is it not his/her job to do something about it? All I'm asking is that the cops pick up a phone and call ICE so that they can deal with the immigration issue. That isn't too much to ask, is it?
It's not that simple. You have to schedule hearings to determine the status of the person and have a place to hold them not to mention, fund it all. Even then, you are talking about a very small percentage of illegals.
It's irrelevant what "I want", what is relevant is what we can do and since there aren't just 5,000 your point is a waste of time.
Hey wise guy, you asked for those of us who think a certain way to speak up, and this is the tripe you reply with
I asked you a fair question considering you made it sound as if the problem is too big to deal with. So it is natural to wonder what number would change your thinking from lets enforce our existing laws via deportation, vs. the excuse that the problem is too big to attempt it?
Remember, after the Democrats reneged on the agreement for what was to happen after the Reagan amnesty, there was a point (in people like your minds) that we should be deporting new illegal aliens who get into the country.
So at what point in your mind did it become too much of a burden or logistically "impossible"?
As to the overall point, every illegal removed is one step closer than we were before. I obviously agree that the bad hombres should be the first to be targeted. Then we should move on to those who are taking services/benefits without contributing to the communities, due to a lack of skills, intelligence or work ethic. Remember some of these "dreamers" are as dumb as turnips and cannot hold a job because they cannot learn a skill/trade, so they wil be an economic burden in this country for their entire lives.
What happens to the rest is another matter, but getting rid of the aforementioned by arrest/deportation, self deportation incentives, or outright payment to leave should be occurring post haste.
Wrong! It's against the law to hire illegal aliens and it's up to the employer to make sure that they aren't hiring them. That's the reason for e-verify.
In order to meet the law, the employer has to fill out a form detailing what ID was presented to him/her. That's it. An employer is not required to figure out whether the papers presented are false or not. Every time I filled out one of these forms when we hired a new employee, I realized all over again how ridiculous the law is. Doesn't do a damned thing.
A food processing company I worked for hired many hispanics for line work and people with H-1B visas for lab work. I have no doubt that some of those people presented false documents. Didn't matter, all we were required to is document what they had shown us. We were not required to have a private investigator on staff.
A think-tank I worked for hired people with post-grad education and experience in particular fields. In theory, we were open to hiring immigrants. In practice, no immigrant passed our screening process.
No such thing as an undocumented immigrant they are illegal aliens. There are still thousands of illegal aliens crossing our border every year to claiming that the number is down is irrelevant, thus the wall. We are well aware of the visa overstayers and they will have to be dealt with also.
Call them what you want. They are people here without proper documents. And I'll call them what I want to call them.
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