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Old 01-25-2018, 07:08 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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The $25 Billion does not vanish into thin air. It will go to the businesses who do the construction and the people they employ. Of all the money we send in foreign aid or all the stuff our military is doing around the world this is a much better use of taxpayer money.

And DACA will be solved.

It would be nice to see come compromise on both sides for a change.
We have had too many amnesties already. Time to give us our part of the compromise. Build the wall and put DACA's on the other side of it. The only way to solve DACA is to deport them. Anything else will only encourage others to do it their way. Immigration laws should be in control of immigration; not slipping over the border.

Insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting other results. We have several million more illegals here now than the last time we had amnesty. Tell me how it makes sense to give amnesty AGAIN? More amnesty is insane.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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So the idea is to make Democrats look bad? Is that the goal we should be aiming for? How about doing what needs to be done such as giving a few months so all illegals can have a chance to go home before they get arrested and deported to an island or country somewhere? That would solve the problem and send a message that our immigration laws are not to be taken for granted. An illegal is a criminal already. They shouldn't have to commit any other crime to be deported.
Both the far left and far right are so out of touch on this. I want to stop illegal immigration but doing what you suggest will start a civil war and throw the country into a depression. Horrible idea. We are going to ruin all American's lives just to get out a few million illegals.

You know Hitler had the same idea. He told all the jews to leave. Gave them time to do so. Some did many didn't. We all know what happened to the ones who stayed.

Previous administrations have screwed up on immigration and kicked the can down the road. If someone came here as a child and graduated high school has stayed on the straight and narrow no need to deport them. But they should never be citizens. And stop the chain immigration. Their parents broke the law by bringing their kids and themselves here. They need to go back.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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DACA will be solved when it is done away with.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:17 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The $25 Billion does not vanish into thin air. It will go to the businesses who do the construction and the people they employ. Of all the money we send in foreign aid or all the stuff our military is doing around the world this is a much better use of taxpayer money.

And DACA will be solved.

It would be nice to see come compromise on both sides for a change.
Americans have been compromising for long enough. Time for all illegals to leave.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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Not worth it. The wall is going to be a massive failure. Many people come in legally through us customs and overstay their visa.The eminent domain issues alone will cost tons of $ and the court cases will be tied up for years. Farmers won't be able to access the Rio Grande for irrigation. Wildlife populations will be separated by the wall.

Illegals will just go under or over the wall. I think we should have drones with FLIR cameras (which detect heat, so a person is easily spotted, even at night) that track the illegals crossing the border and then apprehend them once they get to a point where it is accessible for border patrol to apprehend them.

Hire more border patrol agents. This will create jobs and will protect our border. Win-win for the people living by the border.

The wall just won't work and isn't worth all of that money.

This stupid nonsense again?
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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It shouldn't now or before. It sends the wrong message to the rest of the world. It tells the world our laws aren't worth the paper they are written on. It says the only thing our government officials are interested in is getting votes. Most of what is wrong with America started in the early 60's. That is when our downfall started. That's when the Mafia took over our government.

I remember when people who crossed over our nation's wall were shot. Doing that to keep us safe was just a horrible thing so you see where it has gotten us. We are not safe and they are still coming over the wall.
What walls? When were they shot?
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: FL
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Not worth it. The wall is going to be a massive failure. Many people come in legally through us customs and overstay their visa.The eminent domain issues alone will cost tons of $ and the court cases will be tied up for years. Farmers won't be able to access the Rio Grande for irrigation. Wildlife populations will be separated by the wall.

Illegals will just go under or over the wall. I think we should have drones with FLIR cameras (which detect heat, so a person is easily spotted, even at night) that track the illegals crossing the border and then apprehend them once they get to a point where it is accessible for border patrol to apprehend them.

Hire more border patrol agents. This will create jobs and will protect our border. Win-win for the people living by the border.

The wall just won't work and isn't worth all of that money.
Exactly! Most people don't want the wall.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:19 PM
 
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The $25 Billion does not vanish into thin air. It will go to the businesses who do the construction and the people they employ. Of all the money we send in foreign aid or all the stuff our military is doing around the world this is a much better use of taxpayer money.
If Trump wanted to the throw in ending the wars in the deal, I would champion it and cheer Trump on.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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We have had too many amnesties already. Time to give us our part of the compromise. Build the wall and put DACA's on the other side of it. The only way to solve DACA is to deport them.
I've asked this over and over and no one ever answers. How exactly do you plan on doing that?
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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If and only if you get a guarantee to complete the wall and secure the entire border before these 1.8 million become citizens then I can get behind this
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