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Old 02-08-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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We’ve lost 11 weeks of gains.
Absolutely guaranteed to recover. It's of zero consequence. This dip is extremely small, and there is no historical precedent for a non-recovery.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:59 PM
 
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Maybe you are right but I remember people saying housing prices NEVER went down. And then 2009 occurred.
Housing is much, much different than the DOW. It's not remotely the same animal.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Who told Trump and company to enact a large scale corporate and personal tax reform near the top of the cycle?
no kidding..geezus
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:16 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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^^This. We were recovering fine but he pushed it into overdrive. Now everyone is selling and in a panic - and it's not just the US - it's rippling around the world. Rates going up makes it more expensive for businesses to borrow - it hits the building and real estate market especially hard.
Not a panic. But I do worry about this as China has a massive debt issue that could certainly cause a crash. There was a lot of debt created that will start getting more and more expensive globally.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Specifically, people who sell based on MSM scares don't know what they are doing.

Generally, people who sell at short dips don't know what they are doing.

Unless you are essentially an inside trader, doing anything but buying indexes and holding through even major dips is almost a surefire way to lose your money. Unless you are bright, with a hefty stake, and can teach yourself options trading.

If you have money in the stock market, comfort yourself by going and studying every historical dip in the stock market since its inception. It has never not recovered.

If this nation ever implodes politically in a real way (ie: civil war), then you may see a long-term decline. But until then selling the S&P is an indefensible financial decision unless you sell on an upward trend in anticipation of a downward trend (selling high and without loss to repurchase low). But I don't recommend trying that type of prediction. The only way to gain he highest chance of long term winning is to buy and hold.
Another headwind, aside from debt getting more expensive as mentioned in my post above, is an aging demographic nearing retirement who may decide it's time for profit taking.

Frankly, I think China will be the source of the next major market correction.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:23 PM
 
Location: California
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The market needs to be healthy, it doesn't need to be "the highest in 20 years and not stopping yet". The interest rates need to come up. And hopefully someday the magic of compounding interest will once again be something people rely on to help create their personal wealth.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:26 PM
 
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If you want to understand the stock market and the economy, watch the business and finance shows and read business websites. They actually know what they are talking about, not like the talking heads on lamestream media who are uninformed and hysterical.
I always get my investment advice from someone who throws around the term “lamestream media”.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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What stock market crash?
I already asked that a few pages back.

Still no answer.

Has everyone lost their minds?
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It is always the black guys fault if you listen to Trumpsters
A 100% ridiculous and inaccurate claim.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:02 PM
 
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A 100% ridiculous and inaccurate claim.
I think it is spot on. We have a thread about Obama being the cause of the recent market downturn. Any reasonable and educated man would see that as nonsense. Apparently you disagree. Provide evidence.
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