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Old 02-12-2018, 11:54 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Then they will be complaining when they all on welfare

Instead of penalizing students for trying to better themselves ....

How about making college more affordable?

Average Published Yearly Tuition and Fees Public Two-Year College (in-district students) $3,440
(this, from: https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/p...ege-costs-faqs )

That's the national average. Some community colleges are even cheaper.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I am talking New York State Colleges (SUNY)

375 for a 1 bedroom in Binghamton
500 for a 1bedroon in Cortland
550 for a 1 bedroom in Cobleskill(Albany)
Links?
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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You can take that up with every banker's best buddy, Bill Clinton.

https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/...a98/index.html
I didn't like it then, either. No reason to make it worse.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:42 AM
 
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Links?
In Cobleskill - $550 per month:
https://albany.craigslist.org/apa/d/...465243020.html

In Cortland - $500 per month:
https://ithaca.craigslist.org/apa/d/...479318843.html

In Cortland - $495 per month:
https://ithaca.craigslist.org/apa/d/...453764792.html
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:00 AM
 
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automation is not taking the truck drivers job
automation is not taking drafting jobs

automation is not taking concrete workers jobs
These 3 will be largely automated short-term.

Trucking could be in so far as highway travel is concerned with ease.

Shortening miles by driver immensely.

Rote aspects latter two-same way.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:03 AM
 
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I'm not sure who you consider a member of the older generations, but I am 53, and I think this plan is total BS. Why in the world is it possible for someone to rack up thousands of dollars of credit card debt and then declare bankruptcy, but that escape route is unavailable to a person whose degree has not been the golden ticket to success that they were told all their life that it would be?

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Credit card corp was not a guaranteed , no income required, yes.

Change student loans to a decision where bank can say no-you would be correct then.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You mean, people will actually have to pay back their debts? Oh, the outrage.
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How many times has he declared bankruptcy, an option not available for student loans?
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You can take that up with every banker's best buddy, Bill Clinton.

https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/...a98/index.html
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I didn't like it then, either. No reason to make it worse.

Did I miss a turn somewhere?

There is no either to like or dislike because the policy will remain unchanged from the day in 1998 when Bill Clinton made student loan debt no longer dischargeable through bankruptcy.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:14 AM
 
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Low income people won't be able to go to college.
Move to Louisiana. High school students with roughly a "c" average get a free college education here. Yet, the state always has financial problems.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:20 AM
 
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Is that what YOU did? Or did the First Bank of Dad & Mom finance your Trump University edumacation?
What do those swindlers charge for a year of college now over there? 12k a year? That's a lot of overtime at Maccas! How about making college less outrageous? Nah you silver spooners and Cheeto swooners do NOT want that! The more regular folks that can afford college, the more people who get marketable skills, the less in demand YOU are, the more YOU will actually have to WORK and EARN your pay; no more being overpaid in your ivory towers, smugly judging others.
Affordable college is the last thing you people want!!
Wow.

Still have that chip on your shoulder.

Even in retirement.

SMH.
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:29 AM
 
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Everyone has the same opportunity to be excellent and receive scholarships. Everyone has the opportunity to work their way through college. Everyone has the opportunity to go to night school and work a day job or only take as many classes as they can afford. .


Effort Inequality remains our biggest problem.
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