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Sooooo, the Left gets Universal Healthcare, paid for by taxes by everybody.. and the Right gets the 2a.
Now, mentally unstable persons, can be treated again without funding problems.
There are many people with mental health issues NOT being covered. Many of them do not go off killing others, they simply kill themselves. I've also argued that we need to have the discussion whether or not we can do more about a James Holmes. I believe we can but we won't unless that is the discussion.
While we argue over something that isn't going to happen there are other James Holmes out there. We can not ban guns. It is not going to happen. There are things we can do that will help many people but we prefer to argue things that are not going to change anything.
Brevik used a Ruger mini-14, and killed 77 kids in Norway. Thats 1/3 the price of a AR-15.
A Mini-14 isn't an AR, you said AR Mr. Slidey Goalpost guy.
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30 rounds is higher capacity then 3 or 5.
And lower than any number above 31. So what's objectively high? My 870 hold 7 in the tube and one in the chamber is that a high capacity shotgun?
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Ammo is cheap.. its relative.
Indeed it is, but it's also subjective. There are cheaper cartridges than 223 Rem/5.56mm NATO do you dispute that? If not its purely your opinion.
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When shooting across 60 fot room, you dont need much accuracy. And the AR-15 hardly recoils! .
Doesn't matter you said point and shoot to 300 yards Mr. Slidey Goalpost guy. Recoil isn't huge but exists, and even slight recoil when uncompensated for will have you shooting at the floor or sky.
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Look at the ballistics. Point and shoot. Put a aimpoint on that thing and you aim center mass 300 yards is easy.
Not so with a handgun or shotgun.
If you put an Aimpoint on it as a novice you're no better off, you'd need to zero it, that's beyond novice and it isn't part of a stock AR Mr. Slidey Goalpost guy, plus it's a $500 aiming aid adding to the cost and demolishing your whole "cheap" angle.
12 shots 6 seconds revolver. No one is saying you can't fire 30 rounds in 5 seconds with any semi auto, but not the novice who just bought a gun to shoot up the school.
But the question that NO ONE wants to answer, or even address, is why do so many of these mass shooters choose this type of weapon?
I must have asked that question at least 5 times on this board in the last 10 days and no one answers.
My guess is because of the way we have demonized it. There are millions of them available. How do you propose we make them not available? Even during the "ban" you could legally purchase them.
Do you really believe in a situation that is never going to happen but if they were not available that those who decide to do harm are going to just go on with their lives?
My guess is because of the way we have demonized it. There are millions of them available. How do you propose we make them not available? Even during the "ban" you could legally purchase them.
Do you really believe in a situation that is never going to happen but if they were not available that those who decide to do harm are going to just go on with their lives?
Time is how you get them out of the market. Pass a bill and stop legal sales.
It may take a couple of decades but it will happen. This conversation and incidents may not have happened if the GOP renewed the AW Ban.
But the question that NO ONE wants to answer, or even address, is why do so many of these mass shooters choose this type of weapon?
I must have asked that question at least 5 times on this board in the last 10 days and no one answers.
Why do people buy BMWs? When there are better cars for the money, or cheaper cars that meet or exceed their performance?
Because people have an image that they are trying to achieve. Same with shooters choosing an AR. The press and gun control groups have both vilified and popularized America's rifle (and it is in truth). So folks with no knowledge at least know about AR-15s, and can go and by name buy one (and I'd bet those doing thus also know the name Bushmaster). So why my opinion is firmly on pro-gun control supporters vilify in it. After all its not the most accurate, reliable, or powerful rifle there is. It's adequate and a modern day gun owners erector set.
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