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Old 02-26-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Her observations are consistent with other reports. Cruz carried a backpack and another pack into the school. Presumably, the bags contained his gun, ballistic vest, gas mask and Helmut.

The teacher said he had a type of gun she had not seen before. Most people have never seen an AR-15 up close and personal. I am one of them.

He eventually shed the gear and ran out of the school and off the property with thousands of other students.

This is before the site had been fully secured by LE.
Here is my take on that... and this is only because I took an AR class (whoops to be PC).... That's a lot of gear to put together and put on if we are to believe the published timeline. And yep... I know that old women like me are slow...but once again it's something that makes you go hhmmmm... Of course, I did the same thing when visiting the grassy knoll......

 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Cruz had also been expelled a while ago. Wouldn’t she question his presence?
Suspension and expulsion are defined by each state by a number of days. For example, a state may define a Suspension as 10 days or less and an Expulsion as more than 10 days. It's is not uncommon for the expelled student to be reinstated.

Did all 3300 students know Cruz?
Did all 3300 students know he had been expelled?

Were all 3300 students aware he had not been reinstated?

According to reports from former teachers, Cruz began demonstrating anti-social behaviors in middle school, outbursts, and fighting. He had an intense interest in and support for guns. He drew swastikas on school work. He made racist remarks about Jewish and black people. He wrote on a school paper " Obama should be burned alive and eaten".

The Middle School eventually transferred him to a county school for emotionally behaviorally disturbed students, aged 5-22. The goal of the school is to transition students back to mainstream school.

At some point, he was transferred to Douglas high school where he was eventually expelled. From there, he attended an alternative high school.

Where exactly does a middle school kid acquire the ideology he had? His deceased adoptive father and /or mother? Online? Absolutely nothing would have prevented him from joining the online Stormfront community. What was the source of funding his acquisition of guns and armor?
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Every school should have cameras as part of their security package. It will be interesting to see what is on Parkland's cameras.

Meanwhile, Rush revealed a program that Obama and Holder created a few years back whereby schools that didn't arrest minority students would get bonuses. This would allow them to not show up in background checks if they wanted to buy a gun. In other words, let these kids get away with criminal behavior.

A former teacher in Chicago said he called Secret Service agents when he discovered the school's star basketball player was passing counterfeit cash. The agents told him that there was nothing they could do because schools were protected zones. Don't remember the exact phrase used and I don't know if this was only in Crooked Chicago. Administrators didn't want to prevent the kid from getting a basketball scholarship. Hmmm, is this why so many pro football and basketball players commit crimes later? They are used to getting away with it for so long.
Have anything factual to back up Limbaugh's claim?

This is the school-to Prison Pipeline thing.

Schools embraced a Zero Tolerance for guns which led to anecdotal stories about students getting suspended for using their thumb and forefinger or chewing a pop tart into the form of a gun.

Then came the " Broken Window " policy whereby LE cracked down on minor offenses, including back talk.

SROs in schools proliferated.

Endless studies concluded racial disparities relative to disciplinary outcomes, for the same or similar offenses.

Then the pendulum swings the other way.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Sort of like the Rachel Madcow worshiping Loonies? That Bernie Sanders supporter and Madcow fan who shot those GOP baseball players comes immediately to mind.
The most recent school shooter took a selfy wearing a MAGA hat.

What does Rachel Maddow or Trump have to do with mass shootings?
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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With every tragedy comes conspiracy theories, alternatives to what information was provided through mainstream outlets.

For instance, to this day the Kennedy murder has never been "solved".
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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She states clearly that there were "three shooters, definitely".

Snopes dismisses this whole account by calling it "ambiguous" and pretending to not hear what she said.
And, she's a forensics specialist? Or a school kid caught up in chaos? Do they train school kids to remain totally calm these days while they are in the midst of a shooting event? Yeah, they try to , but lack of experience in real life situations might make a kid unreliable as a witness. Unless, of course, they were highly trained and experienced in those situations. Must have been, eh?
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Sure, cameras are a must. So are man traps.


Get the Israelis to design your school security. They know what they are doing.
Here we go again.

Terrorism from Palestinian Arabs are a risk is Israel, not mass shooters from the local population.

The right to bear arms is a privilege, not a right in Israel. No 19-year-old civilian can buy a gun, let alone a semi-automatic. The civilian gun ownership rate in Israel is a fraction of what it is in the US.

All schools in Israel are protected by private armed security at the entrance. Schools in the proximity of the strip and hot borders have military protection. Prive security, LE and the military rely on profiling civilians. It's about the Palestinian Arab risk.

In the US, would be mass shooters blend into the general population.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Second eyewitness that unambiguously states that there were definitely multiple shooters:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWUrLbTVrDw
3300 students. No doubt there are a variety of perceptions. Then there's the reality of evidence.

What's the upside to concluding it was a lone shooter if the evidence supported multiple shooters? Wounded and dead are still wounded and dead.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Something is not adding up in this Parkland shooting deal.

“Then I suddenly saw the shooter, about 20 feet from me, standing at the end of the hallway, actively shooting down the hallway – just a barrage of bullets. And I’m staring at him thinking, ‘Why is the police here? This is strange.’ He was in full metal garb – helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’d never seen before.” It wasn't an AR.
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I still want to know who was in the bodybag they hauled out, before the teenagers were let out of the building.
Every time there is an event like this, be it Las Vegas, Orlando, or Sandy Hook, the conspiracy theorists start climbing out of the woodwork. They live in a fantasy world, where everything is a lie, and everyone is fabricating stories to cover up something dirty.

I can't imagine going through life like that.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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She states clearly that there were "three shooters, definitely".

Snopes dismisses this whole account by calling it "ambiguous" and pretending to not hear what she said.
The reporter failed to ask her for more information. Did she see any shooter? Multiple shooters?

The teacher who let her into her class and protected her saw the lone shooter coming down the hall. He shot into her classroom.

3300 students in that school. No two experienced the shooting the same way. Hearsey and rumors are common stuff in schools on a good day.
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