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Old 03-03-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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A plot to kill ‘50 or 60. If I get lucky maybe 150.’




Six days before he allegedly opened fire on an elementary school playground, the eighth-grader returned to his Instagram group chat to fixate, yet again, on his most intense interests: guns and bombs and the mass murder of children.
“My plan,” wrote Jesse Osborne, who had turned 14 three weeks earlier, “is shooting my dad getting his keys getting in his truck, driving to the elementary school 4 mins away, once there gear up, shoot out the bottom school class room windows, enter the building, shoot the first class which will be the 2d grade, grab teachers keys so I don’t have to hassle to get through any doors.”




On Valentine’s Day, at the same time police say another angry teen, Nikolas Cruz, slaughtered 17 people at a Parkland, Fla., high school with a semiautomatic AR-15, Jesse was sitting in a South Carolina courtroom, waiting to find out whether he would be tried as an adult for a 2016 rampage that left his father and a 6-year-old dead.




The two teens have much in common. Both, investigators say, tortured animals, obsessed over guns and bragged of their deadly intentions on social media. And in the hours after Cruz’s alleged murders, as the nation began, once again, to ask why, a group of detectives, prosecutors and psychiatrists were providing answers about Jesse, now 15. He’d detailed his motives in dozens of online messages, in his 46-page confession and in lengthy interviews with doctors who evaluated him, offering extraordinary insight into the mind of an American school shooter.




Inside an accused school shooter
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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What a well written, thought provoking thread. I think there are always "signs" that a child is not developing normally. We all knew kids growing up who were a little "odd". I knew a kid when I was younger who fit that description. He was always doing strange things, like putting mouse traps in the yard to kill birds that would try to get the bite of food he put in there. He enjoyed pulling wings and legs off of animals.

The last I heard, he was in some trouble with the law for some violent threats he had made to his brother. And yet, no one thought he needed any help with his emotional problems. Much like Cruz, who slipped through crack after crack.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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From what I have read, Mr. Cruz admitted to the attack. If there is a video of him saying, why still use the term "accused", provided it wasn't a doctored video?
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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From what I have read, Mr. Cruz admitted to the attack. If there is a video of him saying, why still use the term "accused", provided it wasn't a doctored video?
Because we're innocent until proven guilty in this country. A court has to make a ruling.

It's just a formality basically.
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