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Ironic you think it funny that the thread is still going on yet see nothing funny that the reparations bill has been brought to the House floor for over a decade. As long as the issue is "kept alive", you should not be surprised people react to it.
Having noted that, you are correct about the post Civil War period. There should have been a Marshall Plan for the black population: Skill training, education, land grants, the works.
It is clearly too late and we live in a much better place now. Not perfect, but undeniably better.
Time to move on.
I think it's funny that there are so many ongoing threads about Maxine Waters. I also noted I'm not dumb enough to believe the reparations bill will ever pass, so IMO it is ridiculous that it is brought up every year.
As I noted earlier, many here are obsessed with her it seems. IMO it is because they don't have Obama in office to rag on so they have to find another, sillier, funnier black person. Obama was rather boring lol. But the majority of the posters on this thread and the OP are pretty obsessed with Maxine Waters. I swear this is the 3rd or 4th one about her in a week I've seen and she is not even a very important elected official, nor can she follow through with any promises on any reparations bill.
It is just a way to rile up the "special" white people amongst us IMO against Maxine Waters and all black people.
Let's not complicate the matter. The entire system needs some form of modification.
Rather than approaching compensatory reparations, let's just reduce the gap between the rich and the poor through changes primarily in our educational system.
IMO America also needs to re-evaluate how we view our education system. America can't function will every single adult having a college degree. Having a college degree is not the only path to becoming a productive adult or a middle class or higher earner.
Many on C-D are fans of Norway and their way of life. Over there, a university education is free for all. However, even with that, not every young person goes for a college degree. In Norway, blue worker jobs are still respected. So after high school, many go on to become apprentices in a trade.
Also, because wages remain high for blue-collar occupations, she said, there’s less of a financial incentive for some Norwegians to bother with college, since they can get jobs more quickly, and earn almost as much money, working as plumbers or electricians.
I do think what would also help the Native Americans and other groups trapped in a cycle of poverty, is to help them get into the trades (as well as help with their academics). Their communities can very much be helped by their young adults becoming tradespeople too. It's good honest work.
Otherwise, Norway does have a problem with real estate. It's very difficult for them to buy a home. Prices are through the roof.
She’s trying to rally the black folks troops to come out for the 2020 election, like they did for Obama. Nothing like the promise of free money to get blacks off their butts and go to the voting booths.
I think it's funny that there are so many ongoing threads about Maxine Waters. I also noted I'm not dumb enough to believe the reparations bill will ever pass, so IMO it is ridiculous that it is brought up every year.
As I noted earlier, many here are obsessed with her it seems. IMO it is because they don't have Obama in office to rag on so they have to find another, sillier, funnier black person. Obama was rather boring lol. But the majority of the posters on this thread and the OP are pretty obsessed with Maxine Waters. I swear this is the 3rd or 4th one about her in a week I've seen and she is not even a very important elected official, nor can she follow through with any promises on any reparations bill.
It is just a way to rile up the "special" white people amongst us IMO against Maxine Waters and all black people.
Well I do not think there is much that Obama and Waters have in common.
Having said that, Waters is one of the more outspoken members of Congress- much like another Californian from the 1990s, Bob Dornan. He was white and GOP if that makes you feel better.
Anyway, she is a public servant who is unrestrained in her comments. If her constituents feel that is ok, and since she has been in Congress for decades, they apparently do, then so be it. However, the rest of us have the right to respond.
Were she white, I doubt you would care very much. She is not and I sense that might be a bit embarrassing and so you dismiss her and act like her critics have a problem. Take comfort in the fact that black politicians can be cranks just like white ones.
As bad as old maxine is, and she is bad, I hate to say it, but I think Georgia has got Calif. beat in the elected folks cateagory . We’ve got Hank Johnson.
I only responded to the fact that black Americans can prove ancestry back to 1870 and before almost 90% of the time (or more).
In regards to reparations, I'll note it is hilarious that this thread is still going on.
But again, that the bill for reparations has been brought to the floor for over a decade now. Also that a reparations program is not specific to slavery.
Too often, too many non-black people ignore the fact that the black populations basically lived as a terrorized population from 1880 through 1970. If reparations would ever be provided, they would, could, and should be provided for that near century as it was the most damaging from the educational and economic perspective of black America.
There have been many threads on this forum over the years about reparations. As I have repeatedly noted, there are still black people alive today who have been financially harmed and medically harmed due to being survivors of terrorism inflicted upon the black population by white Americans and which the government overlooked and/or were complicit in. Reparations IMO should be in the form of medical care (including dental and psychological coverage) and educational scholarships at public universities along with a tax credit.
However, I'm not dumb enough to believe that reparations would ever occur. But if they did, that is what I'd want - not a check/money and I wouldn't want it to be based on slavery. If our ancestors would have been allowed equal opportunities after the Civil War, then we wouldn't have had the issues that many of you like to cite today as during the Reconstruction era, black people actually made great gains educationally and economically. You all should review a history by WEB DuBois called "Black Reconstruction in America"
@Southern man: as old as Maxine is, one would think she would adhere to this quote, "While slavery was outlawed over 150 years ago, it still happened for decades (I'm talking about the plantation-type). However, don't let the sins of past hold you back. Find a way to carve out your future and find out a way to take responsibility for what is currently around".
IMO America also needs to re-evaluate how we view our education system. America can't function will every single adult having a college degree. Having a college degree is not the only path to becoming a productive adult or a middle class or higher earner.
Many on C-D are fans of Norway and their way of life. Over there, a university education is free for all. However, even with that, not every young person goes for a college degree. In Norway, blue worker jobs are still respected. So after high school, many go on to become apprentices in a trade.
I do think what would also help the Native Americans and other groups trapped in a cycle of poverty, is to help them get into the trades (as well as help with their academics). Their communities can very much be helped by their young adults becoming tradespeople too. It's good honest work.
Otherwise, Norway does have a problem with real estate. It's very difficult for them to buy a home. Prices are through the roof.
BTW one of my housemates is a young Norwegian.
Yep, everyone except white males are victims of society. Poor poor victims, we must become socialist and redistribute the white male wealth to others just because they breath...
Well I do not think there is much that Obama and Waters have in common.
Having said that, Waters is one of the more outspoken members of Congress- much like another Californian from the 1990s, Bob Dornan. He was white and GOP if that makes you feel better.
Anyway, she is a public servant who is unrestrained in her comments. If her constituents feel that is ok, and since she has been in Congress for decades, they apparently do, then so be it. However, the rest of us have the right to respond.
Were she white, I doubt you would care very much. She is not and I sense that might be a bit embarrassing and so you dismiss her and act like her critics have a problem. Take comfort in the fact that black politicians can be cranks just like white ones.
Personally I don't care what color she is, she's a loon in a really bad wig plain and simple...
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Poor poor victims, we must become socialist and redistribute the white male wealth to others just because they breath...
