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Old 03-07-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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Just heard Governor Brown speak. Listened to Jeff Sessions. So bottom line to all of you from California. How DO YOU FEEL about illegal aliens living in your state? How do you feel about so much of your tax dollars going to support them? How do you feel about hiding them from ICE. What do you REALLY think about Sanctuary Cities? Please be honest.

 
Old 03-07-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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You're framing a lot of stereotypes here. Illegal aliens are in just about every state in the country.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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You're framing a lot of stereotypes here. Illegal aliens are in just about every state in the country.
Which one is the stereotype?
 
Old 03-07-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Illegal immigrants are a net benefit to the economy. Sanctuary cities are just following the law. It is not up to cities to spend resources on enforcing federal immigration law. That is the job of the federal government. Actively hiding them and denying explicit federal requests for info though is not legal.

From the CBO: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use.”
 
Old 03-07-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Just heard Governor Brown speak. Listened to Jeff Sessions. So bottom line to all of you from California. How DO YOU FEEL about illegal aliens living in your state? How do you feel about so much of your tax dollars going to support them? How do you feel about hiding them from ICE. What do you REALLY think about Sanctuary Cities? Please be honest.
Not my Governor Moonbeam. No Sanctuary. I hope Sessions goes after them. Our homeless and Veterans need our help. The President has made a good offer for DACA. But criminals need to go. So sick of the bleeding of resources in California.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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How do the people in California really feel?
Feeling in California has been officially banned following the Harvey Weinsten allegations and #metoo movement.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Illegal immigrants are a net benefit to the economy. Sanctuary cities are just following the law. It is not up to cities to spend resources on enforcing federal immigration law. That is the job of the federal government. Actively hiding them and denying explicit federal requests for info though is not legal.

From the CBO: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use.”
That is an absolute lie. Illegals cost taxpayers 134 billion a year. Welfare,public schools ,hospitals, policing, etc

https://fairus.org/issue/publication...ates-taxpayers

Close to half of los Angeles county is on medicaid (Medi-Cal) Senate GOP healthcare bill would be 'devastating' for L.A. County, officials warn

Right now the economy is good so places like califronias pensions are still solvent, we will see how this plays out if the economy were take a downturn.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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That is an absolute lie. Illegals cost taxpayers 134 billion a year. Welfare,public schools ,hospitals, policing, etc

https://fairus.org/issue/publication...ates-taxpayers

Close to half of los Angeles county is on medicaid (Medi-Cal) Senate GOP healthcare bill would be 'devastating' for L.A. County, officials warn

Right now the economy is good so places like califronias pensions are still solvent, we will see how this plays out if the economy were take a downturn.
So taking the word of the obviously biased fairus.org over the Congressional Budget Office as an impartial evaluation on the net cost of illegal immigrants? Yes, they consume tax money, but they contribute more.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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OK, to be fair....I would like people who actually LIVE in California to say they are either OK with all of their tax dollars going to support illegal aliens, or NO they aren't happy with what the government is forcing them to comply with.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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So taking the word of the obviously biased fairus.org over the Congressional Budget Office as an impartial evaluation on the net cost of illegal immigrants? Yes, they consume tax money, but they contribute more.

Depends....you did not provide a link, so...


Do immigrants cost U.S. taxpayers $300 billion annually? | PolitiFact




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