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Old 03-19-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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When Trump assumed office (he actually earned office, but 'assumed' is usually the word used) he promised to roll back 2 regulations for every one that was passed.

His people have actually rolled back 22 regulations for every 1 passed! That means companies are seeing that less money needs to be held in abeyance to pay for inspections, lawyers, and regulatory requirements. And this new, freed-up money is being used to raise wages and expand companies.

Good News. It's what he was hired to do.

Trump Cuts 22 Regs for Every New One
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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Waiting for the inevitable wail from the usual suspects about how the environment will be destroyed or the air will become unbreathable or the polar bears will die or some slug will be harmed.

Take your pick.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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When Trump assumed office (he actually earned office, but 'assumed' is usually the word used) he promised to roll back 2 regulations for every one that was passed.

His people have actually rolled back 22 regulations for every 1 passed! That means companies are seeing that less money needs to be held in abeyance to pay for inspections, lawyers, and regulatory requirements. And this new, freed-up money is being used to raise wages and expand companies.

Good News. It's what he was hired to do.

Trump Cuts 22 Regs for Every New One
It’s good news for businesses. It’s not good news for employees and consumers.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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It’s good news for businesses. It’s not good news for employees and consumers.
It is horrible news for our environment.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: MS
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It is horrible news for our environment.
Doesn't your state have the equivalent of an EPA? Even "backwards" Mississippi does - https://www.mdeq.ms.gov/

Who knows a state's environment better than the people that live there? Why should California's air and water quality be governed by someone thousands of miles away? Why should it be a 'one size fits all' set of rules?
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It’s good news for businesses. It’s not good news for employees and consumers.
Then why are wages rising, and unemployment falling?
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:08 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Doesn't your state have the equivalent of an EPA? Even "backwards" Mississippi does - https://www.mdeq.ms.gov/

Who knows a state's environment better than the people that live there? Why should California's air and water quality be governed by someone thousands of miles away? Why should it be a 'one size fits all' set of rules?
Try using common sense - yes, I know it's in short supply these days, but just try.

The air quality in China impacts the air quality of everywhere between Shanghai and Colorado, never mind the impact of smoke from California's fires impacting much of the rest of the Western US - see, the earth spins on its axis and the planet has oceans and vast continents which causes winds (such as the jet stream) to form and that ensure that what get spewed up in the atmosphere in one place gets spewed in the air of places thousands of miles away. I believe that even Mississippi has windy days. The next time you guys get one, set a pile of tires on fire and then go stand down wind from them. Smell anything?

Water runs downhill. This lie perpetuated by evil scientists means that if Missouri decides to dump chemical wastes or raw sewage into the Mississippi River, then Missouri's toxic wastes are carried all the way down to the land of cotton where they become your problem. Enjoy.

A recent example of this happened in Colorado just last year. The EPA bungled a mine clean-up in the Colorado mountains which set loose a landslide of toxic substances, turning the Animas river fluorescent red. The Animas feeds into the San Juan River in New Mexico and the San Juan feeds into the Colorado River which provides critical water supplies for much of the West. The state of New Mexico is now suing Colorado for damaging the quality of its drinking water supplies.

But - hey! Since the above are all liberal lies, remind me to dump some of the water that leaches out from local uranium mines into the Missouri (which flows into the Mississippi) the next time I'm east of the continental divide. Mississippi - the state that glows in the dark! You guys will love it - promise!

We know what's best for Colorado and the best thing for us to do is dump toxic wastes and sewage into the Rio Grande and the Colorado right where these rivers flow past our state lines. Saves Colorado taxpayers oodles of money and since the headwaters of these rivers begin in the Colorado mountains, we know that OUR water is pure. Tough luck to anyone stupid enough not to live in Colorado.

MCGA! Make Colorado Great Again! We're fed up with providing our water to everyone else. States like Texas and Missouri need to stop leeching off us. Hasta luego, suckers!
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Cutting the Government red tape that has mired so many projects for ridiculous reasons is a good thing.

It is hard to have progress when there are so many hurdles to jump through before the project can even start which of course drives up the cost when permits, fees, payouts and payments need to be made.


Of course the Lefties will scream that the environment is going to be destroyed. They will cry anyways so I say let them and we can move forward.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: MS
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Try using common sense - yes, I know it's in short supply these days, but just try.

The air quality in China impacts the air quality of everywhere between Shanghai and Colorado, never mind the impact of smoke from California's fires impacting much of the rest of the Western US - see, the earth spins on its axis and the planet has oceans and vast continents which causes winds (such as the jet stream) to form and that ensure that what get spewed up in the atmosphere in one place gets spewed in the air of places thousands of miles away. I believe that even Mississippi has windy days. The next time you guys get one, set a pile of tires on fire and then go stand down wind from them. Smell anything?

Water runs downhill. This lie perpetuated by evil scientists means that if Missouri decides to dump chemical wastes or raw sewage into the Mississippi River, then Missouri's toxic wastes are carried all the way down to the land of cotton where they become your problem. Enjoy.

A recent example of this happened in Colorado just last year. The EPA bungled a mine clean-up in the Colorado mountains which set loose a landslide of toxic substances, turning the Animas river fluorescent red. The Animas feeds into the San Juan River in New Mexico and the San Juan feeds into the Colorado River which provides critical water supplies for much of the West. The state of New Mexico is now suing Colorado for damaging the quality of its drinking water supplies.

But - hey! Since the above are all liberal lies, remind me to dump some of the water that leaches out from local uranium mines into the Missouri (which flows into the Mississippi) the next time I'm east of the continental divide. Mississippi - the state that glows in the dark! You guys will love it - promise!

We know what's best for Colorado and the best thing for us to do is dump toxic wastes and sewage into the Rio Grande and the Colorado right where these rivers flow past our state lines. Saves Colorado taxpayers oodles of money and since the headwaters of these rivers begin in the Colorado mountains, we know that OUR water is pure. Tough luck to anyone stupid enough not to live in Colorado.

MCGA! Make Colorado Great Again! We're fed up with providing our water to everyone else. States like Texas and Missouri need to stop leeching off us. Hasta luego, suckers!
What is our EPA doing about Chinese pollution? Sending a sternly worded letter to them? I can see Xi Jinping laughing in his equivalent of the Oval Office.

What is the EPA going to do about the wind? Are they going to erect a large filter to clean the air as it carries the smoke out of CA? CA's forestry service should be preventing these fires with controlled burns. When it does get out of hand, other neighboring states usually jump in to help.

You provided a great example of EPA ineffectiveness. Do you think the the cleanup by an organization with no vested interest in Colorado was a good idea? Maybe https://www.colorado.gov/cdphe should have been in charge. And Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution covers " Controversies between two or more States".

While I didn't address each example in your post, I don't see how a federal organization is better than one at the state level handling these situations.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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Then why are wages rising, and unemployment falling?
Because of reduced regulations, obviously.

At any rate, reduced regulation means a greater likelihood of unsafe working conditions, environmental pollution, unsafe food and drugs, unsafe products, and so forth.
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