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Sometimes people who know a little think they know a lot. Sometimes people who know a little think they know a little. Sometimes experts are wrong. Sometimes experts feel pressure to go along with the majority consensus in their field. Sometimes the majority consensus is wrong. Sometimes the majority consensus is influenced by drug companies.
The Dunning-Kruger experiments were contrived and, I think, very unconvincing. You can contrive an experiment to show just about anything you want.
It is very easy to think of examples where people do NOT over-estimate their knowledge.
Dunning-Kruger is mentioned every time someone wants to support the mainstream consensus on anything. The basic message is "If you are not an expert, your opinion is worthless."
But when experts disagree with the mainstream consensus, they can't use Dunning Kruger. So they say the expert went nuts, or whatever excuse they can find.
Sometimes people who know a little think they know a lot. Sometimes people who know a little think they know a little. Sometimes experts are wrong. Sometimes experts feel pressure to go along with the majority consensus in their field. Sometimes the majority consensus is wrong. Sometimes the majority consensus is influenced by drug companies.
The Dunning-Kruger experiments were contrived and, I think, very unconvincing. You can contrive an experiment to show just about anything you want.
It is very easy to think of examples where people do NOT over-estimate their knowledge.
Dunning-Kruger is mentioned every time someone wants to support the mainstream consensus on anything. The basic message is "If you are not an expert, your opinion is worthless."
But when experts disagree with the mainstream consensus, they can't use Dunning Kruger. So they say the expert went nuts, or whatever excuse they can find.
People who think they know more than all the health experts in the world are definitely suffering from Dunning-Kruger. This applies to diseases as well as vaccines. People who dig in their heels about old-fashioned treatments and recommendations when the experts have moved on are definitely suffering from DK as well.
They throw Lyrica around like candy these days. Recently when in hospital over half of the patients that I spoke to were prescribed Lyrica for all sorts of reasons.
Lyrica is an anti-epileptic & also commonly used as a mood stabiliser. Every patient I've met through my pain clinic were prescribed Lyrica or Epillim (another anti-epileptic) Most say it's entirely useless for nerve related pain. A few have said it helps a little.
Until I found that cannabis was brilliant for nerve pain, I suffered from excruciating nerve pain that was getting progressively worse. So I know what it's like. Two patients from my pain clinic committed suicide because they couldn't cope with nerve pain & we suspect that a few other regulars who've gone missing have also 'checked out early'.
Nerve pain is bad enough without also giving a dangerous liver damaging drug that causes horrible side-effects (many patients have told me that they 'don't feel human' while taking Lyrica) Sudden cessation can kill so patients have to wean off it slowly. One of the worst commonly prescribed pHarmaceuticals.
It just does my head in that Dr's could do this to their patients. So much for 'Cause no harm'.
It's so sad that so many people put 100% faith in their Dr's & accept whatever treatment that's prescribed without question nor any research.
In actual fact, whenever I question or disagree with a specialist (Never my GPs, they've been great) they usually get quite angry & aggressive. One pain clinic Dr was getting stuck into me when I refused to even entertain the idea of trying Epillim. She shut up real quick when I asked 'Would you take it or prescribe it for one of your family?
Have you looked in Alpha Lipoic Acid? I take it for neuropathy. It is a life saver for me. I could never take Lyrica. I am a T2 diabetic. The pain and burning in my feet would be a nightmare without this supplement.
People who think they know more than all the health experts in the world are definitely suffering from Dunning-Kruger. This applies to diseases as well as vaccines. People who dig in their heels about old-fashioned treatments and recommendations when the experts have moved on are definitely suffering from DK as well.
No, Katarina. Just no. It’s ridiculous to suggest that “all the health experts in the world” are on the same page in regards to disease, vaccination, etc. Also ridiculous to try to categorize anything other then using pharmaceutical and vaccines such as herbal remedies, alt medicine, etc. as “old fashioned treatments” implying that they are outdated and useless. It’s a very narrow minded viewpoint you are showing here. Maybe you are suffering from DK?
They throw Lyrica around like candy these days. Recently when in hospital over half of the patients that I spoke to were prescribed Lyrica for all sorts of reasons.
Lyrica is an anti-epileptic & also commonly used as a mood stabiliser. Every patient I've met through my pain clinic were prescribed Lyrica or Epillim (another anti-epileptic) Most say it's entirely useless for nerve related pain. A few have said it helps a little.
Until I found that cannabis was brilliant for nerve pain, I suffered from excruciating nerve pain that was getting progressively worse. So I know what it's like. Two patients from my pain clinic committed suicide because they couldn't cope with nerve pain & we suspect that a few other regulars who've gone missing have also 'checked out early'.
Nerve pain is bad enough without also giving a dangerous liver damaging drug that causes horrible side-effects (many patients have told me that they 'don't feel human' while taking Lyrica) Sudden cessation can kill so patients have to wean off it slowly. One of the worst commonly prescribed pHarmaceuticals.
It just does my head in that Dr's could do this to their patients. So much for 'Cause no harm'.
It's so sad that so many people put 100% faith in their Dr's & accept whatever treatment that's prescribed without question nor any research.
In actual fact, whenever I question or disagree with a specialist (Never my GPs, they've been great) they usually get quite angry & aggressive. One pain clinic Dr was getting stuck into me when I refused to even entertain the idea of trying Epillim. She shut up real quick when I asked 'Would you take it or prescribe it for one of your family?
I question everything for at least the last 20+ yrs of seeing doctors.
On the Lyrica, I'm a member of other groups and omg, going thru withdrawal of this drug. I would never touch it. A friend was taking it along with gabapentin and living with all the side effects and then after hearing me talk so much about the virtues of the GRAPE and grape seed extract she is off both those drugs and taking grape seed ex for about 7 yrs or so. She has lived with neuropathy from skin cancer treatments and statin damage and now in so much better place re: all the nerve pain she has lived with for years.
The large handful of drug takers make fun of how I've talked this great supplement up but let them, they are ignorant and so closed minded with their pharma toxic drugs.
Grape Seed Ex also works to reduce diabetic issues. So does foods control.
It's true about the ALA too for the neuropathy and other B vitamins.
They have drugs for something called Restless Leg Syndrome. That's a marketing man's creation if I ever heard one.
Attention Deficit Disorder is another one. Although this sounds like a psychiatrist's creation. It really a form of normal.
Getting one's magnesium optimized can end this RLS (made up syndrome). Now would a doctor tell their patient to get on a $10 bottle of quality magnesium for this issue? No, get out the writing pad for an Rx.
No, Katarina. Just no. It’s ridiculous to suggest that “all the health experts in the world” are on the same page in regards to disease, vaccination, etc. Also ridiculous to try to categorize anything other then using pharmaceutical and vaccines such as herbal remedies, alt medicine, etc. as “old fashioned treatments” implying that they are outdated and useless. It’s a very narrow minded viewpoint you are showing here. Maybe you are suffering from DK?
All the health agencies in the world, not just the US, support vaccines. The CDC, FDA, ACIP, AAFP, AAP, ACOG, and many others here in the US, The European CDC (ECDC), Canada's equivalent, Health Canada, Australia's equivalent, the WHO, UNICEF, you name it. That a few celebrity doctors do not support vaccines is irrelevant.
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