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Can't help but wonder what is going on behind the distracting dog and pony show.
don't know, i'm divided on this thought.
it's possible this is strategic, designed to distract. but, then again,...
this could be as simple as the fact that trump's never had an experienced competent communications director ( who's job it would be to make sure all in the administration and surrogates were on the same page concerning message ) and/or trump just making outrageous claims and expecting his subordinates to support the lie ( as we saw last week with dr bornstein confirming that trump wrote his own "healthiest president ever" medical review ).
It really is hilarious, even though asinine! Like every "but Obama, but Hilary", which for some odd reason are never deleted, even though they are "OFF TOPIC"!
Maybe if you'd read the thread title... Liar's Incorporated: Potus is lying again....and so are/were these other prominent individuals
You could tell us where it's limited to Trump. Obama falls under the POTUS label, Hillary falls under the other prominent individuals. If OP wanted this strictly about Trump she would have done so.
Obama was one of the biggest liars we've had in office. You just ignored the lies for 8 long years.
I think that Rudy way out of his league. All his comments come out. People then start talking about all the indictments which came out against Trump Campaign employees and donors. They have come out in a year.
While the GOP ran years of Bengasi and years on server yet no indictments came out. The GOP a lying bunch of politicians.
The GOP is by far the most unethical, criminal/corrupt, plus elitist and racist political party in America!
Maybe if you'd read the thread title... Liar's Incorporated: Potus is lying again....and so are/were these other prominent individuals
You could tell us where it's limited to Trump. Obama falls under the POTUS label, Hillary falls under the other prominent individuals. If OP wanted this strictly about Trump she would have done so.
Obama was one of the biggest liars we've had in office. You just ignored the lies for 8 long years.
Yet FACTS prove you wrong, again, and again, and again. It's all in your head.
Were there lies told: YES.
Was he the BIGGEST LIAR in Office: NO.
Keep deflecting, therefore defending and supporting the lies of Trump.
Obama was one of the biggest liars we've had in office. You just ignored the lies for 8 long years.
But Trump lies 18x more than Obama did according to Politico which you yourself referenced. So why are you concerned about Obama, and not completely outraged by Trump?
It's almost as if your issue really has nothing to do with lying.
The tendency to generalize and label into the binary is innate. Neurologically determined for no doubt it promoted early human survival.
Early on, Trump made a conscious decision to appeal to a certain segment of the electorate in a manner designed to win him maximum publicity.
This is not to say that doing that was not cost-effective and it certainly was politically effective. It is also not to say that some of what he said perhaps needed saying - and that some who voted for him did so out of concerns that did not represent a "dog-whistle" response.
STILL, it would be a plus if some Trump diehards could grasp that his utter lack of real preparation for the Presidency, personal excesses, and what comes out of his mouth makes for a man that appears unfit to hold the powerful position on this planet. Sure this is just an opinion but it is one held by many and does not strike me as unreasonable for certainly it is based on boatloads of "evidence."
Sure some will say they realize Trump is a POS. If others continue to disagree well that's their right and it's even understandable. Folks process differently and are triggered by different events.
But that some, in turn, seem to have little understanding that Trump is a LOT for many to swallow and is himself responsible for the responses he engenders shows a lot of mind-blindness.
And sure, all Presidents "lie" - it's innate to the process and is in many cases no doubt thought the best possible response. Many presidents have legal training where they are trained to prevaricate or point split that skillfully stays on the right side of the law. Other Presidents based on changing circumstances will alter previously held positions. The read-my-lips "promise" of George HW Bush is a widely known example.
Trump is in a league by himself - trained by years of "deal-making" where the only goal was self-advantage. That "self" does not correspond - no matter what his rhetoric - to the good of the country. He's too old to learn new tricks.
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But Trump lies 18x more than Obama did according to Politico which you yourself referenced. So why are you concerned about Obama, and not completely outraged by Trump?
So Your argument is that your Liar is a bigger liar than our Liar ?
Hillary lying about not having Classified Emails on her home server was a HUGE factor in her losing the election.
The tendency to generalize and label into the binary is innate. Neurologically determined for no doubt it promoted early human survival.
Early on, Trump made a conscious decision to appeal to a certain segment of the electorate in a manner designed to win him maximum publicity.
This is not to say that doing that was not cost-effective and it certainly was politically effective. It is also not to say that some of what he said perhaps needed saying - and that some who voted for him did so out of concerns that did not represent a "dog-whistle" response.
STILL, it would be a plus if some Trump diehards could grasp that his utter lack of real preparation for the Presidency, personal excesses, and what comes out of his mouth makes for a man that appears to make him unfit to hold the powerful position on this planet. Sure this is just an opinion but it is held by many and is one does not strike me as unreasonable for it certainly is based on boatloads of "evidence."
Sure some will say they realize Trump is a POS. If others continue to disagree well that's their right and it's really fine. Folks process differently and are triggered by different events.
But that some seem to have little understanding that Trump is a LOT for many to swallow and is himself responsible for the responses he engenders shows a lot of mind-blindness.
And sure, all Presidents "lie" - it's innate to the process and is in many cases no doubt thought the best possible response. Many presidents have legal training where they are trained to prevaricate or point split that skillfully stays on the right side of the law. Other Presidents based on changing circumstances will alter previously held positions. The read-my-lips "promise" of George HW Bush is a widely known example.
Trump is in a league by himself - trained by years of "deal-making" where the only goal was self-advantage. That "self" does not correspond - no matter what his rhetoric - to the good of the country. He's too old to learn new tricks.
IIRC, Clinton's emails were classified after the fact.
In any case, we have moved beyond Clinton's emails. Trump openly passed classified information to Russian spies in the oval office.
Trump insisted he was told of the Steele Dossier sources. He was told. Within days one of the likely sources turned up dead in the trunk of his car and several more were hauled out of meetings with bags over their heads, never to be heard from again.
We are way past the possibility of classified information in emails that might be possibly be hacked at some point in the future.
Trump is openly passing classified intel to the Kremlin.
The GOP is by far the most unethical, criminal/corrupt, plus elitist and racist political party in America!
89 GOP administration convictions.
1 Democratic conviction.
This isn't counting Spiro Agnew or Nixon, or Cheney who outed an undercover agent and orchestrated wars based on lies.
Republicans are by far the most criminally corrupt party and have been for the last 50 some years.
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