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The city has a long and rich history of criminals and gangsters even before the Capone years. The gangs have long been entrenched throughout Chicago society, with many of these gangs being in existence for almost 60 years, some even longer. And these are also Latino based gangs and even some white ones in addition to the black gangs, so it's not just a 'black' thing. You have families that have been in the same gang through several generations.
You will never erase that sort of power and influence from the city, and while some years may be worse than others, you can never eradicate something that is so much a fabric of the city. That's why Chicago is a bad litmus test for eradicating gun violence, gangs, and violent crime.
This is true. While much of Chicago's violence today is in poor, inner city Black neighborhoods, that is not the only place it happens. It happens in Hispanic areas. It has happened in White areas in the past. Gangbanging has been a part of Chicago's history for nearly a century. Al Capone, Bugs Moran, Johnny Torrio, Joe Aiello, Frank Gusenberg, Ragens Colts, 14K Triad, Valley Gang, Black P Stones, Vice Lords, Gangster Disciples, etc.
And St. Louis is another city that has a history of being a gang banger city. Giordano crime family, Pillow gang, Russo gang, Hogan gang, Egan's Rats, Bottoms Gang, Horseshoe Posse, B.O.D(Boys of Destruction). St. Louis today is estimated to have about 10,000 gang members, despite having a population of around 315,685 people (and dropping).
The Black homicide rate is 18.68 per 100,000
The White homicide rate is 2.67 per 100,000
While the White homicide rate has risen ever so slightly, the Black homicide rate has jumped 1.16 percentage points.
Missouri, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, they are frequently the most murderous states for Blacks in the USA.
Thanks for posting, good to see more current data.
As a "yellow person", I want to know why the BLM people aren't staging protests on the sidewalks in the blocks where these blacks were shot at and killed. IMO 48 black people shot in one week is a lot more important to protest than one black person shot by police officers.
Oh wait... whoever these shooters were, they were black and because of the black community's "no snitch" culture, no one in these communities are going to help the police catch them AND... there is no big money payouts to be gotten from the city's coffers when the shooters are caught and brought to justice.
BLM only protests in situations where the families of the black "victims" have a chance at getting a large cash settlement from whitey aka "the man".
First of all BLM is a NEW, anti-police brutality organization. However, various religious and community organzations have long been here doing what you claim BLM should be doing, not only protesting, but also doing community outreach and holding gang summits. Did you know that? I'm sure you didn't.
Again, since you also obviously don't live in Chicago, you are not aware that there are black organizations that protest to stop the violence in the high-crime areas all the time. But again, you don't live here, and these protests don't make the national news.
Do question white people about what they are doing to stop mass shootings? Probably not.
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Thanks for posting, good to see more current data.
No problem. I brought up the state because Chicago is the #1 place that gets mentioned. St. Louis is worse than Chicago as far as murder goes. Missouri is currently #1 in Black homicide rates, and has had that distinction a few times in the last 10 years.That can easily attributed to St. Louis.
Wisconsin's high Black homicide rate can easily be explained by Milwaukee's homicide rate. Pennsylvania, well, we have Philadelphia and Pittsburgh for that. Louisiana, well, that's New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Michigan's high Black homicide rate, well, that can be easily explained: Detroit, followed by Flint.
Nebraska has made #1 in terms of Black homicide rates before. What makes Nebraska seem unusual is this. There are no majority Black cities in Nebraska. Nebraska has a small Black population, 4.5% of Nebraska's population. However, the Black homicide rate in Nebraska is frequently in the top 5. Omaha is conservative compared to most American cities. It has a Black population around 13 percent
Kansas has made the top 10 a few times in terms of Black homicide rates. Kansas has a Black population around 5.9%. No large city in Kansas with a Black majority. The city with the largest percentage of Blacks in Kansas is Kansas City (yep, the other Kansas City), 27%. Wichita is a distant 2nd, at 11.5%, albeit it's Kansas' largest city.
Oklahoma tends to have a high Black homicide rate as well. Like the other two states I mentioned, it goes against the grain. The three states I mention(NE, OK, and KS) don't have especially large Black populations. These are conservative, Republican-ran states. Most of the cities in this region are ran by Republicans, or they are not especially liberal (with the exception of KCK). Oklahoma City and Tulsa have a large Republican base. Both cities have Republican mayors. OKC and Tulsa are 15.1% and 15.6% Black, respectively. Tulsa recorded a murder rate of 20 per 100,000, and a rape rate of 90 per 100,000.
As opposed to the umpteen number of Trump bashing threads were Trump voters are called, Trumpees, Trumpists, **********s, Trumpeters, Trumpkins, and other names?
The reason Chicago is cited is that it has one of the highest murder rates in the country. It also has the typical Democrat leadership that don't care about their Black constituents except to get a vote out of them.
Why not cite St. Louis? It's the worst of the worst. And it continues to be.
And here is something else. Most major cities have Democratic leadership. Seattle and Portland are as far to the left as you can get. Low murder rates in those cities. Denver, Democratic-ran and has a low murder rate.
And as for the "Black vote", Black constituents aren't really cared about by either party. If there was any care from Republicans, Blacks in Omaha wouldn't have a high poverty rate. The Black homicide rate in Nebraska would be alot lower than it is.
Nebraska has made #1 in terms of Black homicide rates before. What makes Nebraska seem unusual is this. There are no majority Black cities in Nebraska. Nebraska has a small Black population, 4.5% of Nebraska's population. However, the Black homicide rate in Nebraska is frequently in the top 5. Omaha is conservative compared to most American cities. It has a Black population around 13 percent
Kansas has made the top 10 a few times in terms of Black homicide rates. Kansas has a Black population around 5.9%. No large city in Kansas with a Black majority. The city with the largest percentage of Blacks in Kansas is Kansas City (yep, the other Kansas City), 27%. Wichita is a distant 2nd, at 11.5%, albeit it's Kansas' largest city.
Omaha has had large black street gangs since at least the 1960s. Gang warfare is common there.
Kansas City, Kansas has areas like "Argentine" that are totally controlled by black street gangs.
First of all BLM is a NEW, anti-police brutality organization. However, various religious and community organzations have long been here doing what you claim BLM should be doing, not only protesting, but also doing community outreach and holding gang summits. Did you know that? I'm sure you didn't.
Again, since you also obviously don't live in Chicago, you are not aware that there are black organizations that protest to stop the violence in the high-crime areas all the time. But again, you don't live here, and these protests don't make the national news.
Do question white people about what they are doing to stop mass shootings? Probably not.
This is correct. I live in Chicago and can say that on local news I do see a lot of black organizations protesting the violence, and demonstrating/marching and even coming up with creative solutions to stop the violence.
This is correct. I live in Chicago and can say that on local news I do see a lot of black organizations protesting the violence, and demonstrating/marching and even coming up with creative solutions to stop the violence.
There are Black people, alot of Black people, who are sick of the violence, who do condemn it. Sadly, the thugs who perpetrate this violence, they aren't listening. They aren't hearing anyone. All that those thugs understand is "live and die through violence". Violence is the ethos of a thug. A thug is not born, but raised. Raised to be violent, raised in violence, and is used to violence.
Omaha has had large black street gangs since at least the 1960s. Gang warfare is common there.
Kansas City, Kansas has areas like "Argentine" that are totally controlled by black street gangs.
What is your explanation about Oklahoma City and Tulsa though?
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