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Mueller filed charges and doesn't even have the proof to convict.
He had to have something Russia, so he made false charges against people that he knew would never set foot in America to defend the charges.
Well, 1 called his bluff and now that could sink the entire ship. Discovery is being denied, to the defendant.
Mueller didn't expect them to show up in court, the defense just wants information from the investigation they could care less about being exonerated. Mueller could drop the charges.
Amazing that people are rooting for the Russians over their own country, must be some rather large hatred for the FBI to root for Putin's chef.
No, I do not support prosecuting anyone for nothing more than pushing one's politics. There is nothing to prosecute anyone over here. It's not illegal to post stupid meme's on the internet.
This is the rationale Mueller is using to indict the Russians:
Quote:
The indictment alleges that the named individuals were involved in illegal use of social media platforms all in an effort to encourage political division and promote the campaign of Donald Trump. "US law bans foreign nationals from making certain expenditures or financial disbursements for the purpose of influencing federal elections," says the indictment. "US law also bars agents of any foreign entity from engaging in political activities within the United States without first registering with the Attorney General. And US law requires certain foreign nationals seeking entry to the United States to obtain a visa by providing truthful and accurate information to the government." The charges claim that the 13 Russian nationals violated those laws.
For example, a Mexican citizen not legally here who attended a Hillary rally and bought a T-Shirt violated all three of these laws.
A foreign national legally here that did not register with the AG before attending a Hillary rally, bought a T shirt, and didn't state that they would engage in political activities on their Visa application would also have violated all 3 of these laws.
Democrats are known for being fair, logical, and not hypocritical.
Therefore, Democrats will start demanding that foreign nationals that violated one or more of these laws get indicted. Round them up!
Note that none of the 13 indicted Russian individuals actually have come to the USA and appeared in court. None have been actually 'served' with the indictments in Mother Russia, and it is doubtful that Putin will allow such service.
However, three Russian-controlled corporations were also indicted, and the other day two attorneys appeared proclaiming that they are acting as counsel for one of the indicted corporations, Concord.
From the link:
"On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.
The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success."
Oddly:
"Mueller’s team sent a copy of the formal summons to Dubelier and Seikaly and asked them to accept it on behalf of Concord Management, but Dubelier wrote back on Monday saying that the government’s attempt to serve the summons was defective under court rules. He did not elaborate."
So, it appears that the two attorneys appeared proclaiming to represent Concord, made discovery demands, but will not actually accept service on behalf of the corporation.
The lawyer did not accept the summons because the Mueller team did not follow the proper procedure, and rules pertaining to summons. Likely a delaying tactic by team Mueller.
Many herein like to know about whom appointed judges: this Federal District Court Judge was appointed by President Trump.
So, the Judge has, without explanation, denied Mueller's request to hold off on the arraignment of Concord until such time as proper service is made on the corporation. As stated in the linked article:
The judge denied the request because the defendants voluntarily showed up to court without a summons.
,,,"the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information."
So, for our Russian fans: the Russians are trying to obtain evidence through discovery, without the individuals or corporations involved being legally served. It is odd: one of the attorneys for Concord, as noted above, proclaims that Concord was not summoned properly, yet said attorney still wants to be able to conduct discovery.
The second Muller indicted these people, he entitled them to all the evidence he has against them.
Note that foreign corporations, if conducting business in the US, are required to have a duly authorized agent, at an official address, to accept service. However, an attorney retained by said corporation may accept service in place of the agent, thus waiving service on the corporate agent. They may do so even if the corporate client has no US address, but must be served in their home country; here, Russia.
It would certainly benefit the Russians, and certain Presidents of the United States (not to name names) to be able to discovery exactly what evidence Mueller has, without the Russians et al actually being at risk of liability, whether criminal or civil.
Again, these people are entitled to every piece of evidence Mueller has against them.
If Mueller doesn't want to go to trail, and turn over the evidence, then why did he indict these people?
I don't support Trump nor do I support wasting our tax money in this way.
It wasn't cheap to have Muellers' team show up to say "We really don't have a case here".
That is not what the article says. In any complex case like this there will be hiccups and setbacks.
The cost of Mueller's investigation is peanuts next to uncovering the truth of interference in the US election process and compromise of the executive branch. If Trump can spend thirty million on a parade, we can spend some money to defend the integrity of our constitutional government.
That is not what the article says. In any complex case like this there will be hiccups and setbacks.
The cost of Mueller's investigation is peanuts next to uncovering the truth of interference in the US election process and compromise of the executive branch. If Trump can spend thirty million on a parade, we can spend some money to defend the integrity of our constitutional government.
After all of this time absolutely no one has ever explained how our elections were influenced outside of the DNC cheating for Hillary.
I also DO NOT support Trump's parade so that is a moot diversionary point.
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