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It does not matter if you are talking about illegal-immigrant-parents being separated from their kids..... because the Liberals just want blood from Trump. They want him gone. They like any news article that tries to hurt the President. Even if it takes a "soiled hooker" like Stormy Daniels or a crooked, sleazy attorney like Avenatti, that's fine with the Libs... because they will accept any castration method to damage President Trump.
Sure enough, the Democrats now screaming in feigned outrage over the Trump administration separating illegal-alien children from their parents, didn't mind at all when Obama was doing the same thing for eight long years.
Obama used immigration's ATEP policy to take illegal aliens, ship them halfway across the country, and deport them to Mexican cities thousands of miles from where they illegally came in. And they often did this to just the husband, leaving the rest of the family in various detention camps. When Obama became President, his administration greatly expended this mission, breaking up thousands of families... with complete agreement and compliance from his tame media and big-govt base.
Fast forward to 2018. Suddenly the media and the liberal base is screaming in faux "outrage" about the very some thing being done by the Trump administration, as though it was something new, or different, or unjustified.
It's becoming clear that the Democrats, contrary to their present claims, actually don't care about children being separated from their families, and never did. They are simply using children at the latest bludgeon to attack President Trump.
Are there any depth these Democrats won't sink to, in their whining eagerness to destroy a Republican president they couldn't defeat at the polls? Now feigning concern for children, which they never cared about before, for no other reason than to have something they can lie about to satisfy their political agenda?
Obama’s Immigration Agencies Separated Children From Their Families, Too
by Colin Kalmbacher | 11:54 am, June 18th, 2018
The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a similar effect.
Since 2008, the United States has had a policy known as the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), or Lateral Repatriation. This program focuses on detaining male migrants of Mexican descent. Here’s how it works: Once an immigrant is caught attempting to cross the border without documentation, they are detained, flown or bused across the United States and then shown the exit at another segment of the U.S.-Mexico border–thousands of miles from their original point of entry.
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Sparingly used upon inception, the Obama administration drastically increased the use of ATEP in 2011, responding to a perceived increase in attempts at immigration into the United States by Mexican nationals. But immigrants’ rights activists had long cautioned that Lateral Repatriation breaks up families. The reason is fairly simple: many male Mexican nationals who are detained trying to cross the border often come with their families in tow. When ATEP was used by the Obama administration, the men were captured and taken thousands of miles away, while their wives, partners and children were placed in immigrant detention centers.
Eventually, the men are released into vastly different parts of Mexico than where they originally hailed from, while their families are likely to be deported near the original point of attempted entry. Mothers and older female relatives were typically given the option of staying with their children. Typically this meant being housed in a “family detention center,”most of which are located in Texas or Pennsylvania.
Multiple stories about those family detention centers written during the Obama era–just not by the mainstream media. In particular, dozens of stories about the Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Arizona particular were written by journalists at Shadowproof, a reader-supported media outlet, alone. Journalists for Shadowproof also frequently reported on the T. Don Hutto Residential Center in Taylor, Texas. Most media declined to investigate these facilities until fairly recently.
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Full text of the article can be read at the above URL.
My understanding is that Obama and to a lesser degree Bush ignored the law. When Obama came to office it was a free for all borderless, lawless border. Come one, come all.
I have no issue with the current administration's stance on separating children from their families during the commission of a crime. Mexico and other South American countries have jails that accommodate families. They are lawless, crime infested tent cities. Jail is not supposed to be warm and fuzzy nor is it supposed to be comfortable.
The situation as it is at the border has devolved to the point that it is no longer attainable. It must be fixed. Build the wall, expedite deportations of illegal aliens here and that are caught crossing so that they may be reunited with their families that much quicker.
Sure enough, the Democrats now screaming in feigned outrage over the Trump administration separating illegal-alien children from their parents, didn't mind at all when Obama was doing the same thing for eight long years.
Obama used immigration's ATEP policy to take illegal aliens, ship them halfway across the country, and deport them to Mexican cities thousands of miles from where they illegally came in. And they often did this to just the husband, leaving the rest of the family in various detention camps. When Obama became President, his administration greatly expended this mission, breaking up thousands of families... with complete agreement and compliance from his tame media and big-govt base.
Fast forward to 2018. Suddenly the media and the liberal base is screaming in faux "outrage" about the very some thing being done by the Trump administration, as though it was something new, or different, or unjustified.
It's becoming clear that the Democrats, contrary to their present claims, actually don't care about children being separated from their families, and never did. They are simply using children at the latest bludgeon to attack President Trump.
Are there any depth these Democrats won't sink to, in their whining eagerness to destroy a Republican president they couldn't defeat at the polls? Now feigning concern for children, which they never cared about before, for no other reason than to have something they can lie about to satisfy their political agenda?
Obama’s Immigration Agencies Separated Children From Their Families, Too
by Colin Kalmbacher | 11:54 am, June 18th, 2018
The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a similar effect.
Since 2008, the United States has had a policy known as the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), or Lateral Repatriation. This program focuses on detaining male migrants of Mexican descent. Here’s how it works: Once an immigrant is caught attempting to cross the border without documentation, they are detained, flown or bused across the United States and then shown the exit at another segment of the U.S.-Mexico border–thousands of miles from their original point of entry.
(snip)
Sparingly used upon inception, the Obama administration drastically increased the use of ATEP in 2011, responding to a perceived increase in attempts at immigration into the United States by Mexican nationals. But immigrants’ rights activists had long cautioned that Lateral Repatriation breaks up families. The reason is fairly simple: many male Mexican nationals who are detained trying to cross the border often come with their families in tow. When ATEP was used by the Obama administration, the men were captured and taken thousands of miles away, while their wives, partners and children were placed in immigrant detention centers.
Eventually, the men are released into vastly different parts of Mexico than where they originally hailed from, while their families are likely to be deported near the original point of attempted entry. Mothers and older female relatives were typically given the option of staying with their children. Typically this meant being housed in a “family detention center,”most of which are located in Texas or Pennsylvania.
Multiple stories about those family detention centers written during the Obama era–just not by the mainstream media. In particular, dozens of stories about the Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Arizona particular were written by journalists at Shadowproof, a reader-supported media outlet, alone. Journalists for Shadowproof also frequently reported on the T. Don Hutto Residential Center in Taylor, Texas. Most media declined to investigate these facilities until fairly recently.
(snip)
Full text of the article can be read at the above URL.
But Obama had his heart in the right place and ultimately didn't intend to enforce border controls at all. I was grateful and miss him, frankly. As a small business owner, I need a constant supply of cheap, unskilled labor to keep my business super profitable. I will continue to vote straight Democratic ticket in order to assure that is not a problem.
What would really be BOMBSHELL is if the current coward in chief ever took responsibility for anything, rather than immediately blaming it on others.
He can't just discuss an issue. Everything is someone else's fault and poor snowflake Trump can't do anything about the situation himself--only the party not in power can fix this.
Does he know how dumb he sounds by blaming his policy on the Democrats? Funny how Trump and only Trump CAN'T fix things as he claimed. So sick of his weaseling out of responsibility for anything--while he wants to be treated like a dictator at the same time.
So did it bother you when this sort of thing went on under BO?
I'll say good on him .... my only quarrel is why the heck weren't they sent back.
Trump isn’t forcing children away from parents. He’s enforcing the law on the books.
The facilities they are using are the same facilities Obama used.
the democrats and the media just found out about this? doubtful. they are both using pictures of crying children to play politics.
Go read post #9. Your statement is so much nonsense.
Additionally...NO there is NO law that says we have to separate these families. NONE.
No the facilities are NOT. While some are-the massive number of people being separated and arrested are overwhelming our infrastructure. We're building tent cities in Texas....for children.
And the change in policy that Trumps administration did caused this. This IS new. And its all about political leverage. Trump is LITERALLY saying that he wants his wall built or he will keep hurting children. Thats the bottom line. So yeah, people are freaking out about this, and are upset. Because we thought we should be better then this.
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Originally Posted by Minethatbird
So did it bother you when this sort of thing went on under BO?
I'll say good on him .... my only quarrel is why the heck weren't they sent back.
You mean when the officers involved could make decisions on if they should do this for the protection of the child? Yeah. We did. One was to protect children, this is designed to make them suffer in order to punish their parents, and score political points. Do you comprehend the difference?
I wish people would educate themselves - and use a search like dogpile as google censors everything that isn't left leaning. Many of these kids were being used as drug mules by the cartel. It wasn't even their parents bring them across. Obama's policy was to give them a ticket to appear before a judge and until that date they were free to come and go. Many hid in communities - but the drug runners were taking the kids to the desert and leaving them. Border patrol was finding dead bodies all over the place because they were left to fend for themselves. This is what Trump is trying to fix. But you all are too hard headed to look at things from a different perspective than wht the liberal media pushes on you.
LOL, so now you need to claim it is the millennials, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, SCOTUS, Rinos, Media, liberals, the deep state, and now Google, Yeah sure buddy google the company that has been working directly with the military is suddenly working against the cult....
Has it occurred to you that if everyone is aligning against you, that maybe just maybe your side are the bad guys.
Lets chat about this. The change is the "zero tolerance" policy. Under Obama kids were taken when the parents were abusive, using the kids for cover, or actively engaged in criminal activity of a serious nature, etc.
Under Trump the kids being separated are often being separated from deeply caring families, and asylum seekers.
Do you REMOTELY comprehend the difference folks? Its the difference between parents arrested for a meth house losing their kids, and you being pulled over on your way to the store, and being told that since you are involved in being pulled over they are taking your kids, and good luck figuring out where they are.
This. I swear, do people read anymore?
Good post, greywar.
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