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Old 06-29-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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The agents feel they cannot do their jobs effectively.

“The political backlash against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has turned so intense that leaders of the agency’s criminal investigative division sent a letter last week to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen urging an organizational split.
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The letter signed by 19 special agents in charge urges Nielsen to split HSI from ICE, because anger at ERO immigration practices is harming the entire agency’s reputation and undermining other law enforcement agencies’ willingness to cooperate, the agents told Nielsen.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.512ade17301a




Full copy of the letter here:

https://www.texasobserver.org/ice-hs...ero-tolerance/
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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Looks like those 19 need to be fired or find a new job
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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Looks like those 19 need to be fired or find a new job
Undoubtedly in-progress. Insubordination isn't looked on kindly in large government hierarchies. I wonder how many managers this letter burned in circumventing them. These people were hired to perform tasks, not to be political agents and in a manner that makes the agency look bad. They can advocate from the sidelines in other careers.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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All agencies are now used to further one political party or the other. Both are doing it and these agencies are being hurt by it.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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19 out of 20,000, so earth shattering. Id say those are actually good results to have so few people in the agency feel that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._I...ms_Enforcement
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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Undoubtedly in-progress. Insubordination isn't looked on kindly in large government hierarchies. I wonder how many managers this letter burned in circumventing them. These people were hired to perform tasks, not to be political agents and in a manner that makes the agency look bad. They can advocate from the sidelines in other careers.
Tasks they say they are no longer able to perform.
These people want to do their jobs. They understand their mission.

I wonder if the administration does.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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19 out of 20,000, so earth shattering. Id say those are actually good results to have so few people in the agency feel that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._I...ms_Enforcement
It’s the majority of agents in that sector.

This is noted in the WaPo link.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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If they feel that they cannot separate their political agenda and their job.... They are welcome to quit...
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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All agencies are now used to further one political party or the other. Both are doing it and these agencies are being hurt by it.
Holding and deporting large numbers of women and children is basically picking the low hanging fruit.
What these agents do gets to the heart of the syndicates that organize the drug smuggling and human trafficking.
They should be getting all the support they can possibly use, but optics always seems to win out.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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It’s the majority of agents in that sector.

This is noted in the WaPo link.
Oh well.
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