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Old 07-06-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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Can you explain to me the evolution of all this? When did black crime rates in the US surpass that of whites and why? Given that most of our history in this nation, as a people, has been as slaves, what created the gap between black and white rates of crime and when did it start to statistically appear?

Everything that currently exists EVOLVED into the condition that it now finds itself. Every action creates a reaction. Actions and reactions create mutations which shape how things evolve. Hence, instead of simply noting that black crime rates are higher and blacks warrant being looked down upon because of it, how did this all come to be.....or do people really not even care to know.....they just like the narrative of blacks being criminal.
It started when we stopped ruling over them with an iron fist. Same thing happened in South Africa with the end of apartheid and then the crime rates sky rocketed. The same reason the Middle East has so many dictators. Same thing happens in black neighborhoods with high crime. Police aren’t allowed to police aggressively because its racist, then crime goes up. Some people have to be ruled over with fear and an iron fist to create order.

 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Males commit most of the crimes. I guess females should start calling the cops on every male that we think are suspicious such as long coats and carrying bookbags. I know...it sounds crazy, right. Well, the people that TRY to justify any kind of profiling sound ridiculous. It's just another excuse for oppression but I'm glad people both black and white are putting these "Beckies" on blast. They should continue to lose their livelihood. It is not acceptable. There is no justification for profiling at all. Most of the reported cases are of people doing basic everyday things that other people do.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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Males commit most of the crimes. I guess females should start calling the cops on every male that we think are suspicious such as long coats and carrying bookbags. I know...it sounds crazy, right. Well, the people that TRY to justify any kind of profiling sound ridiculous. It's just another excuse for oppression but I'm glad people both black and white are putting these "Beckies" on blast. They should continue to lose their livelihood. It is not acceptable. There is no justification for profiling at all. Most of the reported cases are of people doing basic everyday things that other people do.
Lol, females do call the police on males. Females are more alert when being approach by a male(s). Males are more alert also when approached by other male(s). Why? As you said, males are responsible for most of the crime.

The suspicions are not only what they wear, but how they act, time of day, location, past experience, etc.

Profiling is real, everyone does it. There are entire career fields that do it ranging from marketing toilet paper to FBI criminal profiles.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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It started when we stopped ruling over them with an iron fist. Same thing happened in South Africa with the end of apartheid and then the crime rates sky rocketed. The same reason the Middle East has so many dictators. Same thing happens in black neighborhoods with high crime. Police aren’t allowed to police aggressively because its racist, then crime goes up. Some people have to be ruled over with fear and an iron fist to create order.

How do you know the problem did not start WITH ruling over them with an iron fist...aka...racial oppression and exploitation maintained through state sponsored and supported violence? That oppression could have been what triggered the subsequent violent behavior. I mean, you are conditioning them that violence is the means to get what you want, by using violence to oppress and suppress them. It's kind of the same theory of spanking. Some theorize that spanking kids as a means of control teaches them to be violent as a means of control. Why would not that theory apply to oppressed people? If you control them through violence, for centuries, you are teaching them that violence is the means to an end.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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Lol, females do call the police on males. Females are more alert when being approach by a male(s). Males are more alert also when approached by other male(s). Why? As you said, males are responsible for most of the crime.

The suspicions are not only what they wear, but how they act, time of day, location, past experience, etc.

Profiling is real, everyone does it. There are entire career fields that do it ranging from marketing toilet paper to FBI criminal profiles.
Of course, they do. There are exceptions to EVERY rule and situation. Rarely for doing minor things like being a kid mowing the lawn in broad daylight, being a kid selling water on your public block, sitting at Starbucks for a meeting or sleeping in your own college dorm hallway. Not in the same context as with black folks including CHILDREN! It's mostly based on how they act and time of day. With black folks including CHILDREN, it is for any reason. Some think it is justified based on the color of their skin, not on the suspicious activity. That's clear.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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In terms of “rate” (crime in proportion to population; percentage) it is higher. Blacks are only about 12-15% of the population, so have a higher “rate” in terms of violent crime. I don’t know when this happened. As you’ve kept mentioning though throughout this thread, it’s not the majority.

My comment wasn’t related to crime rate though. I was saying how moreso than other races, you’ll see more blacks acting out in public in terms of speech, dress, using the N word, being loud, etc. It’s only a small %, but it does reinforce negative stereotypes that can lead to some people being more suspicious around blacks. Not saying that is right.

You cannot reinforce something unless the force already existed in the first place. People these days just look for excuses/rationalizations to feel justified in seeing blacks negatively, lest they be left without a reason and have to see their own self negatively for being racist.


In order for one NOT to feel they are racist, they must seek out justification for their negative views of another race. Let's be honest....NO ONE wants to see themselves as a racist.....therefore everyone who views blacks negatively are going to SEARCH for a reason to justify it, whether it be statistics concerning the behavior of 002 percent of blacks...or them talking loud.....or wearing a hair style whites cannot copy.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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What percent of the US poor are black? Maybe the correlation has more to do with poverty than race.
If poverty correlated with crime then Hispanics would have a higher rate of crime than blacks.
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Of course, they do. There are exceptions to EVERY rule and situation. Rarely for doing minor things like being a kid mowing the lawn in broad daylight, being a kid selling water on your public block, sitting at Starbucks for a meeting or sleeping in your own college dorm hallway. Not in the same context as with black folks including CHILDREN! It's mostly based on how they act and time of day. With black folks including CHILDREN, it is for any reason. Some think it is justified based on the color of their skin, not on the suspicious activity. That's clear.
Not true. For one, you don’t know when all those things happen to non blacks because they aren’t reported and if they are they are ignored. Two, when these stories are report for blacks relevant information is withheld or ignored that justifies what was done. The reporting is always one sided.

Example 1. The kid mowing the lawn had a neighbor who always called the cops for little things for everyone. Yet the only time it made the news was when it was a black kid. All of the sudden it’s racist and that narrative dominates when race had nothing to do with it. It’s as if it’s racist no matter what man all other reasons are ignored. See how biased and uninformed you are!?
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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If poverty correlated with crime then Hispanics would have a higher rate of crime than blacks.

Have you been to Mexico, Columbia, El Salvador?
 
Old 07-06-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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White people are more likely to call the police on blacks for no reason because blacks are more likely to commit crimes. A lot more likely.
This is true and as a black man I can’t even deny it.

Law enforcement is data driven and the data says a large percentage of blacks commit crime despite only being 13% of the population. Until blacks start committing less crime, there won’t be any less prejudices or overzealous law enforcement targeting them.
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