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Old 07-14-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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-It's awesome that Bill Clinton and allegedly Barack Obama meddled in Russian elections!

-Barack Obama is a genius to meddle in the politics and elections of our allies.

-Barack Obama is a genius for blocking Bush's defense missiles to Poland, it would upset Putin!

-It is perfectly reasonable for Obama to tell Putin behind the public's back that Putin can have more flexibility after the election, because it would hurt his reelection chances if he let the public know that he wanted Putin to get more flexibility.

-Romney is such a fool for saying that Russia was a geo-political adversary, Obama was a genius when he said "the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back." BRILLIANT!

-Obama was right not to enforce our agreement with Ukraine to protect them if someone invaded them - can't mess with nuclear Putin.

-Devin Nunes in 2014 is such a Tea Party idiot for saying Russia is trying to impact the election.

-Obama nailed it, this is the USA, our elections are secure...the 2016 election will be fair and secure.

-Obama and Hillary are right, we all must accept the results of the 2016 election before it happens and it is horrible for anyone to suggest otherwise even though we don't know what has happened yet.

-Someone wrote "vote Trump" on the sidewalk in chalk, this is America not a totalitarian state like the old USSR, so we should expel that kid from college to show that we are for tolerance and not totalitarianism!

-2016 Election Night

-Obama may have known about Russian attempts before the election and did little, but that is okay for reasons.

-Oh my God, Russian bots had less than half of one percent of Facebook posts about the election, the majority of which were pro Trump and the minority were for Hillary, this election is tainted....DENY THE ELECTION, RESIST!

-How dare Trump say he can work with Putin, RUSSIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ENEMY, well if he brought out a restart button, I may approve.

-We still don't have any evidence that isn't hearsay of collusion, and collusion may not be a crime, but this is enough to paralyze the government. RESIST!

-Any meddling in a foreign election is an act of war (unless we are doing it).

-Trump is a Putin puppet.

-Oh my God, Trump is going to get us into a nuclear war with Putin, he gave Poland the defensive missiles they had wanted.

-Trump is a mad man teetering on the edge of war with Putin by striking a base inside of Syria that killed Russians.

-Trump is in bed with Putin by not wanting to remove Assad, recent history tells us that removing dictators in the Muslim world is great for stability.

-Trump is severely reducing Obama's weapons dispersal programs across the Muslim world, you know the one that kept arming ISIS and Al Qaeda in places like Syria and Libya, I can't believe he is taking this reckless position, he must be refusing to arm ISIS, I mean moderate rebels, to appease Putin.

-Trump said we can work with Putin in removing ISIS, he is a Putin puppet! We can't work with Russia on anything.

-Trump can't nominate a supreme court pick, because of Russia, no we don't have any concrete evidence, that is what Mueller has been doing, looking for it.

-Trump has been groomed since the 1980s as a sleep agent for the then communist USSR. It isn't crazy, just think about it. It was their way to beat America when he becomes president 30 years in the future. It's not crazy, that is GOP, they are crazy.

-Democrats name Russia as America's greatest adversary and is at it's highest level since the Cold War, but Romney was still wrong, Hallowed be Barack's Name.
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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These thoughts are not just scrambled. These are full of misunderstandings of reality, turbid fantasy, bad-glued irrationality, narrow minded bias and political mythology. Don't want to waste my time explaining your fallacies that based on limited knowledge of things.
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Democrats hate Russia because it contains too many evil undesirable white people for their comfort. After flooding Russia with invading hordes of "refugees", then perhaps in time, Democrats will lose their phobia of Russia and come to accept it's right to exist. Have no fear, George Soros is on the case... With Europe's porous borders and lack of spine, it's only a matter of time...
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
-It's awesome that Bill Clinton and allegedly Barack Obama meddled in Russian elections!

-Barack Obama is a genius to meddle in the politics and elections of our allies.

-Barack Obama is a genius for blocking Bush's defense missiles to Poland, it would upset Putin!

-It is perfectly reasonable for Obama to tell Putin behind the public's back that Putin can have more flexibility after the election, because it would hurt his reelection chances if he let the public know that he wanted Putin to get more flexibility.

-Romney is such a fool for saying that Russia was a geo-political adversary, Obama was a genius when he said "the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back." BRILLIANT!

-Obama was right not to enforce our agreement with Ukraine to protect them if someone invaded them - can't mess with nuclear Putin.

-Devin Nunes in 2014 is such a Tea Party idiot for saying Russia is trying to impact the election.

-Obama nailed it, this is the USA, our elections are secure...the 2016 election will be fair and secure.

-Obama and Hillary are right, we all must accept the results of the 2016 election before it happens and it is horrible for anyone to suggest otherwise even though we don't know what has happened yet.

-Someone wrote "vote Trump" on the sidewalk in chalk, this is America not a totalitarian state like the old USSR, so we should expel that kid from college to show that we are for tolerance and not totalitarianism!

-2016 Election Night

-Obama may have known about Russian attempts before the election and did little, but that is okay for reasons.

-Oh my God, Russian bots had less than half of one percent of Facebook posts about the election, the majority of which were pro Trump and the minority were for Hillary, this election is tainted....DENY THE ELECTION, RESIST!

-How dare Trump say he can work with Putin, RUSSIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ENEMY, well if he brought out a restart button, I may approve.

-We still don't have any evidence that isn't hearsay of collusion, and collusion may not be a crime, but this is enough to paralyze the government. RESIST!

-Any meddling in a foreign election is an act of war (unless we are doing it).

-Trump is a Putin puppet.

-Oh my God, Trump is going to get us into a nuclear war with Putin, he gave Poland the defensive missiles they had wanted.

-Trump is a mad man teetering on the edge of war with Putin by striking a base inside of Syria that killed Russians.

-Trump is in bed with Putin by not wanting to remove Assad, recent history tells us that removing dictators in the Muslim world is great for stability.

-Trump is severely reducing Obama's weapons dispersal programs across the Muslim world, you know the one that kept arming ISIS and Al Qaeda in places like Syria and Libya, I can't believe he is taking this reckless position, he must be refusing to arm ISIS, I mean moderate rebels, to appease Putin.

-Trump said we can work with Putin in removing ISIS, he is a Putin puppet! We can't work with Russia on anything.

-Trump can't nominate a supreme court pick, because of Russia, no we don't have any concrete evidence, that is what Mueller has been doing, looking for it.

-Trump has been groomed since the 1980s as a sleep agent for the then communist USSR. It isn't crazy, just think about it. It was their way to beat America when he becomes president 30 years in the future. It's not crazy, that is GOP, they are crazy.

-Democrats name Russia as America's greatest adversary and is at it's highest level since the Cold War, but Romney was still wrong, Hallowed be Barack's Name.
The hypocritical left though it was OK to vote for bill clinton even though after he quit on is Rhodes scholarship and went to Russia.

The clinton's have had MORE connections with the Russians then Trump ever had and Trump is bad.

Obam had the Sect of State, hilalry try to better our relations with Russia via the
re-set button and that wad GOOD.

Trump is trying to have better relations with Russia and that is BAD.

The dems show how hypocritical they a really are every day.
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Old 07-14-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Perhaps the change of sentiment was related to Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea, coupled with their ongoing proxy war in Eastern Ukraine. And more recently, their threats to Baltic states, running Russian subs past Stockholm, supporting fringe/racist groups like Golden Dawn in Greece. And even more recently, a blatant fake news pro-Trump barrage on social media; conveniently - it has gotten them a president who seems more interested in Russian geo-political interests than American.

There is a clear narrative here, that I'm not sure how the OP missed. 2012 was 8 years ago - times change. In that time - Trump has changed from a Democrat to a Republican. So if we want to talk about hypocrisy, lets start with Trump - not some comment Obama made 8 years ago.

And, I do acknowledge - in the words of CIA director Micheal Hayden: "Theft of data is acceptable international practice." So thats not the point; the point is that the Trump team used information stolen by the Russians, and weaponized it.

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Old 07-14-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trumpling "whataboutism" straight from the Kremlin.

None of that makes tRump's insistence on a private unrecorded pow-wow with Putin any less sinister.

No Trumplings have the least little bit of skepticism.

B-b-but OBAMA!

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Old 07-14-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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Democrats hate Russia because it contains too many evil undesirable white people for their comfort. After flooding Russia with invading hordes of "refugees", then perhaps in time, Democrats will lose their phobia of Russia and come to accept it's right to exist. Have no fear, George Soros is on the case... With Europe's porous borders and lack of spine, it's only a matter of time...
Then we must have far different values. I dislike the RF because they have no freedom of speech, no freedom of elections, and no rights for minority groups. 2010's Russia behaves more like a fascist dictatorship than a democracy.
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Old 07-14-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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These thoughts are not just scrambled. These are full of misunderstandings of reality, turbid fantasy, bad-glued irrationality, narrow minded bias and political mythology. Don't want to waste my time explaining your fallacies that based on limited knowledge of things.

It wouldn't sink in anyway, save your typing fingers.
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Old 07-14-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
-It's awesome that Bill Clinton and allegedly Barack Obama meddled in Russian elections!

-Barack Obama is a genius to meddle in the politics and elections of our allies.

-Barack Obama is a genius for blocking Bush's defense missiles to Poland, it would upset Putin!

-It is perfectly reasonable for Obama to tell Putin behind the public's back that Putin can have more flexibility after the election, because it would hurt his reelection chances if he let the public know that he wanted Putin to get more flexibility.

-Romney is such a fool for saying that Russia was a geo-political adversary, Obama was a genius when he said "the 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back." BRILLIANT!

-Obama was right not to enforce our agreement with Ukraine to protect them if someone invaded them - can't mess with nuclear Putin.

-Devin Nunes in 2014 is such a Tea Party idiot for saying Russia is trying to impact the election.

-Obama nailed it, this is the USA, our elections are secure...the 2016 election will be fair and secure.

-Obama and Hillary are right, we all must accept the results of the 2016 election before it happens and it is horrible for anyone to suggest otherwise even though we don't know what has happened yet.

-Someone wrote "vote Trump" on the sidewalk in chalk, this is America not a totalitarian state like the old USSR, so we should expel that kid from college to show that we are for tolerance and not totalitarianism!

-2016 Election Night

-Obama may have known about Russian attempts before the election and did little, but that is okay for reasons.

-Oh my God, Russian bots had less than half of one percent of Facebook posts about the election, the majority of which were pro Trump and the minority were for Hillary, this election is tainted....DENY THE ELECTION, RESIST!

-How dare Trump say he can work with Putin, RUSSIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ENEMY, well if he brought out a restart button, I may approve.

-We still don't have any evidence that isn't hearsay of collusion, and collusion may not be a crime, but this is enough to paralyze the government. RESIST!

-Any meddling in a foreign election is an act of war (unless we are doing it).

-Trump is a Putin puppet.

-Oh my God, Trump is going to get us into a nuclear war with Putin, he gave Poland the defensive missiles they had wanted.

-Trump is a mad man teetering on the edge of war with Putin by striking a base inside of Syria that killed Russians.

-Trump is in bed with Putin by not wanting to remove Assad, recent history tells us that removing dictators in the Muslim world is great for stability.

-Trump is severely reducing Obama's weapons dispersal programs across the Muslim world, you know the one that kept arming ISIS and Al Qaeda in places like Syria and Libya, I can't believe he is taking this reckless position, he must be refusing to arm ISIS, I mean moderate rebels, to appease Putin.

-Trump said we can work with Putin in removing ISIS, he is a Putin puppet! We can't work with Russia on anything.

-Trump can't nominate a supreme court pick, because of Russia, no we don't have any concrete evidence, that is what Mueller has been doing, looking for it.

-Trump has been groomed since the 1980s as a sleep agent for the then communist USSR. It isn't crazy, just think about it. It was their way to beat America when he becomes president 30 years in the future. It's not crazy, that is GOP, they are crazy.

-Democrats name Russia as America's greatest adversary and is at it's highest level since the Cold War, but Romney was still wrong, Hallowed be Barack's Name.
Definitely scrambled thoughts. Agree with you on that.
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Old 07-14-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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