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Old 07-22-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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A teacher with a discipline record as long as your arm kept his job thanks to one after another intervention by the teachers' union. Albert C. Virachismith missed work 21 times, and often showed up to work as an elementary school teacher reeking of booze.


After he showed up smelling of booze yet one more time in 2017, the school tried to fire him. The union filed a grievance, and the school agreed to keep him on under a 'last chance' deal. He failed two urine tests, in violation of the last chance deal. That should have gotten him fired, but for unexplained reasons, it didn't. The district instead sent him on to other schools. The school drafted another letter on Jan 3. 2018 informing him that he was being fired, but the letter was never delivered.


He was finally fired on Feb 7, 2018, shortly after the rape incident came to light. But the reason given for the firing was not his arrest for rape, but his breaking of his last chance agreement. I have to wonder if the termination will stand, based on my experience with union contracts. It may be that the union will decide not to fight due to the rape charge, but if Mr. Virachismith wants to fight, they might have to. And if he wins, he will be due a truckload of back pay.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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Well, that's not good.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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Perhaps he will receive prison justice.

Former Teaching Aide In Seattle Schools Pleads Not Guilty To Child Rape, Molestation Charges | KNKX
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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Union is a pain in the * in these cases. Can’t fire idiots. Also they “moved him to another school” as if that’s gonna help. That’s been done with pastors, cops also.
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Maybe he has a future in Hollywood ...
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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Worked in a factory years ago. Employee missed 38 days of work in 6 months, never even called in. He was fired. Union claimed discrimination and got his job back.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:56 PM
 
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Maybe he has a future in Hollywood ...
Or on the Republican Party.
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Or on the Republican Party.
Who are you referring to in the Republican Party that has raped a child ?
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:02 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The guy wasn’t a teacher, he was a teacher’s aide. Regardless, it is beyond asinine this guy wasn’t fired. Unions need to realize that defending clear cases of incompetence or just sheer misconduct, such as the kind of crap documented on this guy, is what is destroying their credibility and is part of what has led to anti-union sentiment.
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:54 PM
 
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The guy wasn’t a teacher, he was a teacher’s aide. Regardless, it is beyond asinine this guy wasn’t fired. Unions need to realize that defending clear cases of incompetence or just sheer misconduct, such as the kind of crap documented on this guy, is what is destroying their credibility and is part of what has led to anti-union sentiment.
IDK about that, for the one or two extreme examples like this, there are likely 100s of other workers that have been helped legitimately, of course they are going to shine the spotlight on these rare extreme cases, it makes the whole union look bad, but have to recognize it for what it is.
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