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Old 05-26-2018, 12:00 AM
 
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I really don't understand the level of hatred for your own country that goes into this kind of thing.

Muslims flee the hellholes they live in to find a better life in Western Europe, then they try to recreate the hellhole they just escaped. It's a very strange thing. This has been going on for many years now, but thanks to Obama's "Arab Spring" the trickle of Muslim immigration into Europe quickly turned into a flood. Refugees fleeing war zones Obama helped create on the one hand. The much larger flood is the black and north African migrants who aren't fleeing war zones, but know that Europe has a very nice fat welfare system waiting for them.

They are violent. They are entitled. They organize hate-rape gangs who have grabbed up thousands of white British girls as young as 11 years old or younger and subjected them to years and years of rape and sex trafficking. They're told they deserve it because they're not Muslims. The British police and government have apparently lost their minds and refuse to do anything about these "Grooming Gangs" for as much as 40 years, despite knowing perfectly well what was happening. Meanwhile, putting bacon on the door of a mosque got a guy that dislikes Muslims thrown in prison for a year. He was dead before the end of the year was up.

Tommy Robinson is something of a controversial character. He's been quite outspoken against the incoming flood of Muslims. He grew up dealing with a lot of violence and criminal behavior by Muslims in his hometown Luten. He's seen the worst of bad Muslim behavior first-hand and he quite fearlessly reports on it. Some say he exaggerates and much of it may be debatable. But what happened to him is no exaggeration. The British government went digging around in his past. They got him on a technicality that let them throw him in prison for fraud. Muslim gangs rule British prisons so he was put in solitary for his own protection. At one point, a judge decided to move him out of solitary. Within a day or two was beaten nearly to death by a gang of radical Muslims. The British government desperately wants Tommy Robinson to be silenced.

A couple days ago, Tommy Robinson was reporting outside the courthouse about a Muslim Rape Gang trial. He was arrested for disturbing the peace and within the hour he was sent to prison for 13 months. A gag order has been issued banning any of this even being talked about by anyone in the UK. Clearly they want to hide the fact that they've sent Tommy to prison. It is extremely likely that the radical Muslim gangs that dominate the prisons in the UK will kill him and the British government knows it. In fact they're probably counting on it.

This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important. Someday, your government might decide to stop protecting you from the bad guys. Someday, you might find yourself in George Orwell's "1984" like the UK is now. RIP United Kingdom. You will be missed.


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Old 05-26-2018, 01:41 AM
 
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I really don't understand the level of hatred for your own country that goes into this kind of thing.

Muslims flee the hellholes they live in to find a better life in Western Europe, then they try to recreate the hellhole they just escaped. It's a very strange thing. This has been going on for many years now, but thanks to Obama's "Arab Spring" the trickle of Muslim immigration into Europe quickly turned into a flood. Refugees fleeing war zones Obama helped create on the one hand. The much larger flood is the black and north African migrants who aren't fleeing war zones, but know that Europe has a very nice fat welfare system waiting for them.

They are violent. They are entitled. They organize hate-rape gangs who have grabbed up thousands of white British girls as young as 11 years old or younger and subjected them to years and years of rape and sex trafficking. They're told they deserve it because they're not Muslims. The British police and government have apparently lost their minds and refuse to do anything about these "Grooming Gangs" for as much as 40 years, despite knowing perfectly well what was happening. Meanwhile, putting bacon on the door of a mosque got a guy that dislikes Muslims thrown in prison for a year. He was dead before the end of the year was up.

Tommy Robinson is something of a controversial character. He's been quite outspoken against the incoming flood of Muslims. He grew up dealing with a lot of violence and criminal behavior by Muslims in his hometown Luten. He's seen the worst of bad Muslim behavior first-hand and he quite fearlessly reports on it. Some say he exaggerates and much of it may be debatable. But what happened to him is no exaggeration. The British government went digging around in his past. They got him on a technicality that let them throw him in prison for fraud. Muslim gangs rule British prisons so he was put in solitary for his own protection. At one point, a judge decided to move him out of solitary. Within a day or two was beaten nearly to death by a gang of radical Muslims. The British government desperately wants Tommy Robinson to be silenced.
Kevin Crehan died of a drug overdose and the British Police and Government are doing something hence the number of arrests, lengthy prison sentences and even deportations.

As for Europe, Britain voted to leave the EU and was never part of the Schengen Area, whilst after Brexit Britain will have a very different border arrangement.

As for the recent influx of Muslims, they mainly went to Germany, France, Italy etc.


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A couple days ago, Tommy Robinson was reporting outside the courthouse about a Muslim Rape Gang trial. He was arrested for disturbing the peace and within the hour he was sent to prison for 13 months. A gag order has been issued banning any of this even being talked about by anyone in the UK. Clearly they want to hide the fact that they've sent Tommy to prison. It is extremely likely that the radical Muslim gangs that dominate the prisons in the UK will kill him and the British government knows it. In fact they're probably counting on it.

This is why the 2nd Amendment is so important. Someday, your government might decide to stop protecting you from the bad guys. Someday, you might find yourself in George Orwell's "1984" like the UK is now. RIP United Kingdom. You will be missed.
As for Robinson has been in prison before and is still alive, and he was tried by the Courts and Judiciary and not any Government, he's been convicted in the past of a number of different offences including mortgage fraud, which is what he went to prison for, and there were five defendants in all. He's also been involved in public order cases including football related violence, whilst in May 2017, he was arrested for contempt of court after he attempted to take video of the defendants in a child rape case outside Canterbury Crown Court.

Robisin was given a suspended sentence for the Canterbury in rekation to contempt of court, so you would have thought his own common sense would have told him to keep away from Courts with a camera, and he was even given a warning by the police on the day but chose to ignore it.

People or newspapers can be in ‘contempt of court’ when they create a ‘substantial risk’ of prejudicing on ongoing court case and blogging about on-going cases on youtube can indeed fall in to this catergory.

I also don't see what the 2nd Amendement and the Right to Bear Arms has to do with any of this, indeed there have been killings by right wing extremists in the past such as Thomas Mair and David Copeland (the London nail bommber), whilst in Europe far right extremist Anders Breivik, murdered numerous peole many of whom were children. So the last people we want to give weapons to is extremists of any kind.

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Old 05-26-2018, 01:54 AM
 
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Kevin Crehan died of a drug overdose and the British Police and Government are doing something hence the number of arrests, lengthy prison sentences and even deportations.

As for Europe, Britain voted to leave the EU and was never part of the Schengen Area, whilst after Brexit Britain will have a very different border arrangement.

As for the recent influx of Muslims, they mainly went to Germany, France, Italy etc.
The top reason that the British people voted to Leave was because of the insane immigration policies the EU is pushing. There are no doubt rape gangs and grooming gangs all over Germany, Sweden and France right now. The police are probably ignoring those as well. Europe is a strange place right now. The level of self-hatred is astounding.

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As for Robinson has been in prison before and is still alive, and he was tried by the Courts and Judiciary and not any Government, he's been convicted in the past of a number of different offences inckuding mortgage fraud.
And yet they really did do their level best to get him killed. He really was beaten nearly to death by a gang of Muslims. The UK government knows that sending the man to prison is a fine way to get him killed. That's the main reason they're sending him back -- if at first you don't succeed, try try again.

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The suspended sentence he is currently serving even relates to contempt of court, so you would have thought his own common sense would have told him to kep away from Courts, and he was even given a warning by the police but chose to ignore it.

People or newspapers can be in ‘contempt of court’ when they create a ‘substantial risk’ of prejudicing on ongoing court case and blogging about on-going cases on youtube can indeed fall in to this catergory.
Muslims who rape dozens of little girls in the UK get lighter sentences and they don't have the very real threat of death looming over them in prison. I'd say a death sentence is pretty steep for mortgage fraud and contempt of court. I'd say mortgage fraud and contempt are charges that are pretty easy to fabricate and/or conveniently overenforce. The guy feels he's the only one fighting back against the Islamization and Rape Gangs in the UK. He claims that the government is complicit. Tossing him in prison and likely getting him killed in the process kinda proves his point, doesn't it?
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:04 AM
 
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Kevin Crehan died of a drug overdose and the British Police and Government are doing something hence the number of arrests, lengthy prison sentences and even deportations.

As for Europe, Britain voted to leave the EU and was never part of the Schengen Area, whilst after Brexit Britain will have a very different border arrangement.

As for the recent influx of Muslims, they mainly went to Germany, France, Italy etc.




As for Robinson has been in prison before and is still alive, and he was tried by the Courts and Judiciary and not any Government, he's been convicted in the past of a number of different offences including mortgage fraud, which is what he went to prison for, and there were five defendants in all. He's also been involved in public order cases including football related violence, whilst in May 2017, he was arrested for contempt of court after he attempted to take video of the defendants in a child rape case outside Canterbury Crown Court.

Robisin was given a suspended sentence for the Canterbury in rekation to contempt of court, so you would have thought his own common sense would have told him to keep away from Courts with a camera, and he was even given a warning by the police on the day but chose to ignore it.

People or newspapers can be in ‘contempt of court’ when they create a ‘substantial risk’ of prejudicing on ongoing court case and blogging about on-going cases on youtube can indeed fall in to this catergory.

I also don't see what the 2nd Amendement and the Right to Bear Arms has to do with any of this, indeed there have been killings by right wing extremists in the past such as Thomas Mair and David Copeland (the London nail bommber), whilst in Europe far right extremist Anders Breivik, murdered numerous peole many of whom were children. So the last people we want to give weapons to is extremists of any kind.
Wow. The spin and excuse making is off the charts in this post. Instead of discussing the actual topic, you decided to twaddle down memory lane. The fact remains, the news stories about his arrests were taken down. The only reason anyone even knows they exist is because some people out there archive everything as soon as it appears.

He was not "disturbing the peace", he was reporting on the truth, something that the UK police seem to have a huge problem with. And why scrub the stories? Because they know that he will be attacked in prison? Because they hope it will happen? Why did the Mirror and Brietbart both, (complete opposite sides of the political spectrum) have their stories scrubbed?

What is disturbing about your post is not that you want to tap dance around and pretend you're showing the "true" Robinson, it's that you don't have a damn problem whatsoever with the police deciding that you don't have free speech anymore. (I'm sure you're also aware of a certain song writer who mocks the Holocaust - threatened with prison for what? Saying things? Your country is gone.)

You and everyone else knows Robinson was reporting, not "disturbing" the peace. Taking video of the defendants is what people who report news do.

The 2nd Amendment statement was a reminder that this is the type of horse crap that governments pull once they've disarmed their populace. Not to be outdone, the UK police are now out there rummaging around people's gardening sheds looking for 'weapons of mass destruction' (whatever they decide is a "scary weapon" today. The UK police are the laughing stock of the world right now.)

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Old 05-26-2018, 02:09 AM
 
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The top reason that the British people voted to Leave was because of the insane immigration policies the EU is pushing. There are no doubt rape gangs and grooming gangs all over Germany, Sweden and France right now. The police are probably ignoring those as well. Europe is a strange place right now. The level of self-hatred is astounding.
Clearly such gangs which prey on vulnerable people on the streets or in care need to be stopped, which is why the police and national crime agency have taken action in the UK, hence the court cases and often lengthy sensetences.

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And yet they really did do their level best to get him killed. He really was beaten nearly to death by a gang of Muslims. The UK government knows that sending the man to prison is a fine way to get him killed. That's the main reason they're sending him back -- if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
Firstly he was never nearly beaten to death, secondly the prisons are not over flowing wth Muslims there are all kinds of people in prison for all kinds of reasons. Secondly Rnbinson will be assessed like all prisoners and if he feels threatened can be put on either Rule 45 in relation to Vulnerable Prisoners or Rule 43 which is segregation from the general population.

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Muslims who rape dozens of little girls in the UK get lighter sentences and they don't have the very real threat of death looming over them in prison. I'd say a death sentence is pretty steep for mortgage fraud and contempt of court. I'd say mortgage fraud and contempt are charges that are pretty easy to fabricate and/or conveniently overenforce. The guy feels he's the only one fighting back against the Islamization and Rape Gangs in the UK. He claims that the government is complicit. Tossing him in prison and likely getting him killed in the process kinda proves his point, doesn't it?
Robinson did not go to prison for contempt he was given a suspended sentence which he chose to ignore, as for the Fraud, Robinson admitted two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax building societies. So he pled guilty to the offences and was given an 18 month sentence, the fraud totalled £160,000 over 6 months. Robinson was released, after having served almost six months of his sentence, however he was recalled to prison after breaching the terms of his release and probabtion.

Tommy Robinson is not even his real name, he was born Stephen Christopher Yaxley which later became Lennon (his stepfathers surname) and Yaxley-Lennon, he was also known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson and previously Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.

EDL founder Stephen Yaxley-Lennon admits mortgage fraud - BBC News

Robinson was again sentenced to 10 months for using someone else's passport to travel to the USA, so the US authorities were also involved and Robinson will no doubt be refused further entry to the US because of this.

EDL leader Stephen Lennon jailed for false passport offence - BBC News

Muslims do not get lighter sentences, indeed sentences exceeding twenty years have been handed out by the courts in some cases.

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Old 05-26-2018, 02:12 AM
 
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Wow. The spin and excuse making is off the charts in this post.
It took the police in Telford 40 years and a healthy dose of public shaming actually start doing anything about the many thousands of rapes conducted by Muslim grooming gangs there. It's quite clear that some or all of the police knew it was happening all along.

It took the British authorities a whole 1 hour to likely send Tommy Robinson to his death for reporting on a Muslim rape gang from outside the courthouse.
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:25 AM
 
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It took the police in Telford 40 years and a healthy dose of public shaming actually start doing anything about the many thousands of rapes conducted by Muslim grooming gangs there. It's quite clear that some or all of the police knew it was happening all along.

It took the British authorities a whole 1 hour to likely send Tommy Robinson to his death for reporting on a Muslim rape gang from outside the courthouse.
There was evidence that they knew what was going on, or some of them knew. I can't even take the UK police seriously anymore. If they aren't dancing around like fools at their version of Carnival, or confiscating "dangerous weapons" (get those pruning shears away from Grandma, she might attack someone after she's done tending the garden), they are completely and totally ignoring repeated cries for help for decades from young girls, OR, even worse, helping the gangs continue the torture. As I said above, the UK police are a laughing stock. They should be embarrassed to even call themselves "police".
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:35 AM
 
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Clearly such gangs which prey on vulnerable people on the streets or in care need to be stopped, which is why the police and national crime agency have taken action in the UK, hence the court cases and often lengthy sentences.
Lengthy sentences? Right. You mean long sentences like this: Hamid Safi received four years for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children." I found that one without looking very hard at all. What do you think the odds are that I can find somebody convicted of raping and trafficking little girls who got less than the 18 months Tommy got for mortgage fraud?

If you're sending somebody to jail for 18 months for mortgage fraud and another guy to prison for 1 year for sticking bacon on the door of a mosque, you have a horribly broken system.

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Firstly he was never nearly beaten to death, secondly the prisons are not over flowing wth Muslims there are all kinds of people in prison for all kinds of reasons. Secondly Ronbinson will be assessed like all prisoners and if he feeks threatened can be put on either Rule 45 in relation to Vulneravle Prisoners or Rule 43 which is segregation from the general population.
I'd say getting tossed in general population against your will and getting all of your teeth knocked out while being beaten by a gang of Muslims counts as "nearly beaten to death" and that the British authorities were complicit to a significant degree.

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He did not go to prison for contempt he was given a suspended sentence which he chose to ignore, as for the Fraud, Robinson admitted two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax building societies. So he pled guilty to the offences and was given an 18 month sentence, the fraud totalled £160,000 over 6 months.

He was again sentenced to 10 months for using someone else's passport to travel to the USA,

Muslims do not get lighter sentences, indeed sentences exceeding twenty years have been handed out by the courts in some cases.
It took them a whole 1 hour to send him to prison. Clearly they were absolutely chomping at the bit, looking for any excuse to send him back and have another go at getting him killed in prison. Any sane judge would have at least hesitated knowing the danger they were putting Robinson in. One whole hour. There's no accounting for that unless you really want to toss him in prison to shut him up.

Muslims do get lighter sentences and it's kind of a known thing: It's cuz they're Muslims. Despite this fact, the 5% Muslim population of the UK somehow manages to make up over 50% of the prison population in many prisons. In the UK, you can insult Christianity all day, but don't you dare insult Islam or they'll come for you. The UK government needs to be voted out or overthrown at this point. It's beyond insane.
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:59 AM
 
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Lengthy sentences? Right. You mean long sentences like this: Hamid Safi received four years for trafficking for sexual exploitation and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children." I found that one without looking very hard at all. What do you think the odds are that I can find somebody convicted of raping and trafficking little girls who got less than the 18 months Tommy got for mortgage fraud?
Illegal immigrant Hamid Safi, 22, was jailed for four years for conspiracy and one year, concurrently, for trafficking. Safi will be deported back to Afghanistan following his sentence. So Safi was not convicted of raping anyone, he was jailed for conspiracy and trafficking.

Hamid Safi sentenced in grooming case - ITV News

Rochdale grooming case: nine men jailed for up to 25 years each | The Guardian


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If you're sending somebody to jail for 18 months for mortgage fraud and another guy to prison for 1 year for sticking bacon on the door of a mosque, you have a horribly broken system.
Kevin Crehan had a long history of violence and this was taken in to consideration when passing sentence, as for the bacon he tied it to Mosque door handles, which is unacceptable and would not be tolerated if it were a synagogue or any other place of worship. It was confirmed that he died of a drugs overdose.

Bristol football hooligan jailed for seven months - BBC News

Men jailed over bacon tied to Bristol mosque door handles - BBC News

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I'd say getting tossed in general population against your will and getting all of your teeth knocked out while being beaten by a gang of Muslims counts as "nearly beaten to death" and that the British authorities were complicit to a significant degree.
Don't commit fraud and you won't go to prison in the first place, as for being beaten nearly to death that's a complete exageration and as already explained all prisooers are assessed and can apply for either Rule 43 (Segregation) or Rule 45 in respect of being placed in a vulnerable prisoner unit.

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It took them a whole 1 hour to send him to prison. Clearly they were absolutely chomping at the bit, looking for any excuse to send him back and have another go at getting him killed in prison. Any sane judge would have at least hesitated knowing the danger they were putting Robinson in. One whole hour. There's no accounting for that unless you really want to toss him in prison to shut him up.
Robinson was under restrictions layed down by a court in relation to contempt of Court, and the conditions were made very clear to him. Therefore going back to another Court and doing the same thing was a fairly stupid thing to do. The police did not intially arrest him, and he was given a warning but again chose to ignore it.

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Muslims do get lighter sentences and it's kind of a known thing: It's cuz they're Muslims. Despite this fact, the 5% Muslim population of the UK somehow manages to make up over 50% of the prison population in many prisons. In the UK, you can insult Christianity all day, but don't you dare insult Islam or they'll come for you. The UK government needs to be voted out or overthrown at this point. It's beyond insane.
On the one hand you are stating that Muslims receive shorter sentences, which is just not true and on the other you are stating that British prisons are full of Muslims. The actual Muslim prison populationm is 15% in England and Wales which amounts, the other 85% are not Muslim. One of the reasons we have a high Muslim prison population is preciely because the police and security services are doing their job in relation to terrorism and criminal gangs. The Turkish Mafia which operates in London and other cities controls much of the worlds heroin supply.
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Old 05-26-2018, 06:04 AM
 
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Just to be clear I am all for tighter borders in the UK and Europe, the bringing of criminals to justice and the jailing an deportation of muslim extremists.

I have noithing against Tommy Robinson, however some of this just gets blown out of proportion and I am all for free speech however even in the US you have to careful when it comes to reporting on-going Court cases, as there is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

I also have nothing against Robinson making videos and I am sure he is the type of man whose good company down the pub when having a pint.
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