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Old 08-03-2018, 04:34 AM
 
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Wrong, they are only coming down in cities controlled by left wing loons. In the real America and real South you will find plenty of confederate flags. You will also find plenty of resentment or even open hatred toward all forms of political correctness. That sentiment propelled President Trump into the White House. Instead of backing off the left has doubled down on the leftism, political correctness and violence. The seeds of a new civil war have germinated and are taking root. With every statue you commie SJWs tear down you pour water and nourishment on the hatred you planted. The attempt to force the leftist worldview upon the country sadly will lead to tragedy. Whole chapters of future history books will be written on this era, an era that will be compared to the late 1850s. I cannot believe so many on the left think we will give up our heritage, history and rights to a bunch of dirty sign carrying pink haired hippies. We will not, not now, not tomorrow, not ever. I hope the next confederate flag all these lefties see is flying off a tank that rolls through the streets of thier blue state homes. I truly mean that.
I just visited the sight of the "Battle of the Crater" and the Siege at Petersburg.
I can attest that you are correct.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:48 AM
 
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Many who join the military do it because it's an attractive career option.

With the exception of a few areas, such as Atlanta, and Huntsville, much of the South has been economically depressed for some time. It's no wonder that many from the south go into the military.

Why they continue to wave the flag of traitors and losers when they are in the U.S military is somewhat of a mystery.
So much wrong in such a short post.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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"Loyalty to our ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes."

~George Santayana

The Day the Flag Went Up
BY BRETT BURSEY

The Day the Flag Went Up
Do you feel the same of the Vietnam veterans?
Many believe that war and the killing of innocents was a mistake.
Do you hold all military personnel personally responsible for any perceived immoral or negative or disputed issues in all wars?
Of course remembering your ancestors who fell to war is not the same as loyalty now is it.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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Just alittle history in case you didn't know.


While New Jersey was a member of the Union, parts of South Jersey stretch below the lateral limits of the Mason-Dixon line. Cape May, Cumberland, Salem and part of Atlantic counties all lie south of the lines upper limit, but outside the line's eastern border.


New Jersey was a very split state. I'm not saying their was a need for that flag just pointing out the union state was not completely union. Often in the most DEMOCRAT, liberal state you will see the confederate flag in the southern parts of new jersey.


This flag does not completely represent racism, its a flag. Just like when NFL players don't kneel for the current American flag I assume they don't mean its RACIST. This flag was used in the dukes of hazard TV show, and it wasn't until sometime into the 90's were governments decided to ban it.
Thank you. I did not know that specifically about NJ. I did know several states were divided on the issue as were some individual citizens of the states and even divisions within families.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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Brought you to tears? LOL
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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Do you feel the same of the Vietnam veterans?
Many believe that war and the killing of innocents was a mistake.
Do you hold all military personnel personally responsible for any perceived immoral or negative or disputed issues in all wars?
Of course remembering your ancestors who fell to war is not the same as loyalty now is it.
What the heck are you on about?

Tell me, who in their right mind does NOT, as you wrote here, "believe that war (any war) & the killing of (any) innocents (anytime & in any circumstances) was/is a mistake"?

Who precisely, as you wrote here, is holding "all military personnel personally responsible for any perceived immoral or negative or disputed issues in all wars"?

"Loyalty to ancestors does not include loyalty to their mistakes."

This is self-evident, no more needs saying.
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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I just visited the sight of the "Battle of the Crater" and the Siege at Petersburg.
I can attest that you are correct.

its seems like the hippie of the vietnam era, 1968-1974 are now in the office of power and want too destroy the nation with their ideology.
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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This was so courageous that it nearly brought me to tears as he explained why he personally removed a Confederate Flag flying at a local establishment. He put the flag in the garbage and put up the State and Stripes in its place.




https://amp.northjersey.com/amp/870473002
A flag without text is merely a symbol of whatever value the flag bearer decides it has. Same with the flag viewer. This guy arbitrarily decided the flag meant "hate", and not "heritage" (which seems to be the same opinion you have apparently). If he was so upset by it, he should have asked the flag owner what it meant to him/her, vice just taking it.


It wasnt his flag to take down. Theft, not courage.
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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A flag without text is merely a symbol of whatever value the flag bearer decides it has. Same with the flag viewer. This guy arbitrarily decided the flag meant "hate", and not "heritage" (which seems to be the same opinion you have apparently). If he was so upset by it, he should have asked the flag owner what it meant to him/her, vice just taking it.


It wasnt his flag to take down. Theft, not courage.
Courage, not theft.

He’s a great American.
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Wrong, they are only coming down in cities controlled by left wing loons. In the real America and real South you will find plenty of confederate flags. You will also find plenty of resentment or even open hatred toward all forms of political correctness. That sentiment propelled President Trump into the White House. Instead of backing off the left has doubled down on the leftism, political correctness and violence. The seeds of a new civil war have germinated and are taking root. With every statue you commie SJWs tear down you pour water and nourishment on the hatred you planted. The attempt to force the leftist worldview upon the country sadly will lead to tragedy. Whole chapters of future history books will be written on this era, an era that will be compared to the late 1850s. I cannot believe so many on the left think we will give up our heritage, history and rights to a bunch of dirty sign carrying pink haired hippies. We will not, not now, not tomorrow, not ever. I hope the next confederate flag all these lefties see is flying off a tank that rolls through the streets of thier blue state homes. I truly mean that.
LMAO!!! Have a Snickers.
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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Courage, not theft.

He’s a great American.
You have a legitimate misunderstanding of basic definitions, here.
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