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Old 07-31-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Uh, oh, trouble in the heartland.

Senator Jerry Moran rumbles with gritty Kansas town-hall crowd on health care, Trump - News - The Topeka Capital-Journal - Topeka, KS

"Republican U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran grappled with a vocal town hall audience eager for a single-payer national health system and to share their frustration with leadership skills of President Donald Trump."

"the crowd at Baldwin City Public Library shouted their remedy: “Single payer.”

"Several begged Moran to aggressively oppose Trump administration policy, while others asked the senator if there were a way to force his resignation or trigger impeachment."

Congressional Generic Ballot - 2018:
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls...vote-6185.html

Two seats in play - even in Kansas!
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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Kansas is a basketcase of a state that is bleeding out in many ways all over. Gee, who'd have guessed that refusing to spend money on anything (but focusing on "bible law" and other right-wing lunacy) would have consequences? Same state that brought us the Westboro Baptist Church, lol.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway...hes-and-burns/

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...iment-unravels

Classic red-state failure. Increasing debt, vanishing jobs, crumbling infrastructure... and that doesn't count the negative effects right-wing backward and xenophobic beliefs have on job creation.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Uh, oh, trouble in the heartland.

Senator Jerry Moran rumbles with gritty Kansas town-hall crowd on health care, Trump - News - The Topeka Capital-Journal - Topeka, KS

"Republican U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran grappled with a vocal town hall audience eager for a single-payer national health system and to share their frustration with leadership skills of President Donald Trump."

"the crowd at Baldwin City Public Library shouted their remedy: “Single payer.”

"Several begged Moran to aggressively oppose Trump administration policy, while others asked the senator if there were a way to force his resignation or trigger impeachment."

Congressional Generic Ballot - 2018:
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls...vote-6185.html

Two seats in play - even in Kansas!

The foundation of Trump's policy, built on sand, is crumbling. Kansans, who have learned the hard way what happens when Alt-right politics are empowered, have had enough. They see the economic and political collapse of their state, as a smaller example of what's in store for the whole country, if Trumpism is allowed to continue.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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The foundation of Trump's policy, built on sand, is crumbling. Kansans, who have learned the hard way what happens when Alt-right politics are empowered, have had enough. They see the economic and political collapse of their state, as a smaller example of what's in store for the whole country, if Trumpism is allowed to continue.
I've given up on any hope that "people will learn something" - but I am always ready to be proven wrong.

I'd say we are about 50/50 in terms of going into total chaos/authoritarianism or....people coming around slightly and getting back to business.

Even if we elect more reasonable people, the deplorables honestly think they each count for 5 and will not let up and allow the country to be governed decently. It's like the kid who won't share his candy - he will toss it into the dirt and smile before he lets you have it, even if you paid for most of it.

I'll be amazed if that rabid 15-20% doesn't ruin any attempts to reconstitute basic honor.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Uh, oh, trouble in the heartland.

Senator Jerry Moran rumbles with gritty Kansas town-hall crowd on health care, Trump - News - The Topeka Capital-Journal - Topeka, KS

"Republican U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran grappled with a vocal town hall audience eager for a single-payer national health system and to share their frustration with leadership skills of President Donald Trump."

"the crowd at Baldwin City Public Library shouted their remedy: “Single payer.”

"Several begged Moran to aggressively oppose Trump administration policy, while others asked the senator if there were a way to force his resignation or trigger impeachment."

Congressional Generic Ballot - 2018:
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls...vote-6185.html

Two seats in play - even in Kansas!
lol A few people in a town hall meeting in a city with 5k doesn't represent Kansas. AND that city is in a one of the two counties that Hillary won. You're not very good at this.

Just more hypocritical bias on your part. Of course you could counter that with a link to a post of yours where you criticized Obamas policies? I've asked before.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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In before the "But Obama".....
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I've given up on any hope that "people will learn something" - but I am always ready to be proven wrong.

I'd say we are about 50/50 in terms of going into total chaos/authoritarianism or....people coming around slightly and getting back to business.

Even if we elect more reasonable people, the deplorables honestly think they each count for 5 and will not let up and allow the country to be governed decently. It's like the kid who won't share his candy - he will toss it into the dirt and smile before he lets you have it, even if you paid for most of it.

I'll be amazed if that rabid 15-20% doesn't ruin any attempts to reconstitute basic honor.
Make something else up.
You lost. Get over it.
TDS strikes again.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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lol A few people in a town hall meeting doesn't represent Kansas.
Just more hypocritical bias on your part. Of course you could counter that with a link to a post of yours where you criticized Obamas policies? I've asked before.
Please study the Generic Congressional Ballot instead of trying a swordfight. That IS an indication of how people are thinking...

If this rally was just a few LOL - then the good Senator could have dismissed them instead of humoring them. That is what the Great Leader would have done...

Trump net approval is down in all 50 states:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...g-up-by-state/

In Kansas it is down by 16 points. That's a lot. If he was "YUGE", it should be going UP, right? Those who voted against him should be changing their minds due to their huge tax cuts, etc...right?

Look at states he won -
Wis. - from +6 to -12

All important - Pennsy-bama - was +10, now -4

Please....spare us the "polls are all BS" stuff. 538 was within 1.5% of the final tally.

I never make predictions, but the states that took Trump over the top are big time changing their minds.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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Kansas is close to a financial collapse because of the former Gov. Brownback. Even the Republican legislature revolted against him. They cut taxes so much the state is broke. They cut in-home health care and then those people ended up in nursing homes at 10 times the expense. Just one example. I live 20 miles from Kansas and many of those people are coming here for jobs. They cut teacher's salaries so much, there is a shortage of teachers.
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The chickens, as they say, are coming home to roost.

The more people that wake up and figure out what's truly going on the better. It's imperative that we take our nation back before this corrupt administration ruins it forever. It's not too late.
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