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Old 08-20-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by NomadicDrifter View Post
Don't comply get shot. America is the land of the free
The dude was activily trying to draw his weapon and shoot them. If you can manage to not draw on police, you should be good and not be shot.

 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A View Post
Here lies your first problem. In Chicago, it's most likely than not that people who aren't in police or security uniform that are armed aren't legally able to be armed.
I addressed that. Moderator cut: trolling It's sad how many of the most vehement 2A supporters are so willing to ignore the rest of the Constitution.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 08-21-2018 at 06:24 PM..
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Police officer perspective


Anyone questioning the police on this one is INSANE. Perp didn’t have concealed carry. Police were called there for some reason.
There is NOTHING to suggest that. If you just want to make things up, there is nothing to discuss.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Nobody cares.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A View Post
As I keep trying to tell you, the bulge, the way you carry yourself, the way you walk, and the way you act are all specific and afticulable facts. This isn't a hutch. What I just listed are common indicators of someone being armed. There are even videos on it.

Again, the bulge, the way he carried himself, the way he walked, the way he acted, and the area he was in was enough to justify reasonable suspicion.

A trained eye can in fact tell if you're carrying a firearm. Also as I just listed before, he had the mannerisms of someone carrying.
Show proof he was carrying illegally. They knew him and did a quick background check?
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The dude was activily trying to draw his weapon and shoot them. If you can manage to not draw on police, you should be good and not be shot.
Agreed. Once he did that he was done. Doesn't matter if the cop grabbed him. Make a move for the gun, the police have a right to defend themselves. He screwed up and he paid for it with his life.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
I addressed that.
Then why quote me?

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It's sad how many of the most vehement 2A supporters are so willing to ignore the rest of the Constitution.
What rest of the constitution am I ignoring?

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Old 08-20-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Show proof he was carrying illegally. They knew him and did a quick background check?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/...uld-be-n891721


"Augustus had a valid firearm owners' ID card, Johnson said, although no documentation that he could carry a concealed weapon in public. (In 2013, Illinois lawmakers allowed for concealed carry with a permit.)"

While the gun was legally his, he was carrying it illegally, unless he did had a permit after all.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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Agreed. Once he did that he was done. Doesn't matter if the cop grabbed him. Make a move for the gun, the police have a right to defend themselves. He screwed up and he paid for it with his life.
They assaulted him first. He has a right to defend himself. It worked for Bundy.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A View Post
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/...uld-be-n891721


"Augustus had a valid firearm owners' ID card, Johnson said, although no documentation that he could carry a concealed weapon in public. (In 2013, Illinois lawmakers allowed for concealed carry with a permit.)"

While the gun was legally his, he was carrying it illegally, unless he did had a permit after all.
lol I meant show proof the police knew that at that time.
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