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Old 07-28-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The Democrats obviously can find no legitimate excuses for voting against President Trump's nominee to the Supreme Court Brett Kavanaugh. So they are trying the "throw everything against the wall and see if anything sticks" approach.

It's expected that a thorough search into Kavanaugh's judicial history will merely confirm what everybody already knows: That Kavanaugh will do exactly what a Supreme Court judge should: Uphold and enforce the Constitution.

And this is what the Democrats fear more than anything. Since most of their agenda (wealth redistribution, Big Govt control over every part of people's lives, special programs for race-based minorities, massive program not authorized by the Constitution etc.) is itself unconstitutional, the last thing they would ever want is a judge who will interpret the document as meaning what it says, not what liberals wish it said.

So the insanity from the Democrats is mounting once again... starting with a demand for more than a million pages of records.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.49ce59a1bd46

Top Senate Democrat presses former president George W. Bush for Kavanaugh documents

By Seung Min Kim
July 27 at 6:28 PM

Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is escalating a contentious dispute over Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s records, pressing former president George W. Bush directly to release all the documents from the nominee’s five years in the White House.

In a letter released Friday, Schumer wrote to Bush with a “time-sensitive” request: to make public all of Kavanaugh’s paperwork, including from his three years as Bush’s staff secretary, a period when Kavanaugh controlled all the documents that flowed to and from the Oval Office.

Senate Republicans have pushed back against the Democrats’ demand, calling it a delaying tactic and arguing that staff secretary papers would give no insight into how Kavanaugh — President Trump’s pick to replace retiring Justice Anthony M. Kennedy — would act as a judge.

Schumer also raises concerns about what he deemed an “irregular” approach to dealing with Kavanaugh’s records — which are voluminous and could top 1 million pages, according to estimates from both Democratic and GOP senators.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I posted this before, but it applies here:


It's interesting to look at the confirmation numbers of the 4 liberal, vs. 5 conservative justices:


liberals:
Sotomayor.. 68-31
Kagan.........63-37
Breyer.........87-9
Ginsberg......96-3
average number of votes to confirm: 78.5


conservatives:
Thomas 52-48
Roberts 78-22
Alito.......58-42
Gorsuch..54-45
Kavannaugh ??
average number of votes to confirm: 60.5


Numbers speak volumes about which side is willing to engage in bi-partisanship, and which is driven by partisanship, not principle.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Numbers speak volumes about which side is willing to engage in bi-partisanship, and which is driven by partisanship, not principle.

Right, because the number of Democrats vs Republicans in the Senate at each particular point in time is irrelevant.

And each justice's qualification, experience, and fit for the job are also irrelevant. They are all one and the same.

Conservative logic.

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Old 07-28-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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I posted this before, but it applies here:


It's interesting to look at the confirmation numbers of the 4 liberal, vs. 5 conservative justices:


liberals:
Sotomayor.. 68-31
Kagan.........63-37
Breyer.........87-9
Ginsberg......96-3
average number of votes to confirm: 78.5


conservatives:
Thomas 52-48
Roberts 78-22
Alito.......58-42
Gorsuch..54-45
Kavannaugh ??
average number of votes to confirm: 60.5


Numbers speak volumes about which side is willing to engage in bi-partisanship, and which is driven by partisanship, not principle.
That shows the conservatives have no balls.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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so what OP, this is nothing new here. republicans have also examined past papers for liberal judges. its always going to happen regardless of which party is in power. this is part of the advice and consent clause in the constitution. so stop getting hysterical about things like this.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Right, because the number of Democrats vs Republicans in the Senate at each particular point in time is irrelevant.

And each justice's qualification, experience, and fit for the job are also irrelevant. They are all one and the same.

Conservative logic.

.
If you wish to break down the numbers further to show where the two factors you mention erase the differentials, feel free. Otherwise you don't have a point.


I doubt that you are going to be able to account for a 78.5 to 60.5 overall difference with those two factors. And you definitely are not going to account for the fact that RBG got 96 votes to confirm, while Gorsuch got 54. The only way to account for these numbers: Republican senators are bi-partisan and vote on qualifications; Democrat Senators are rabid partisans who vote party line.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So OP what do you want the Dems to do? Rubber stamp this nominee?
At least the Dems are willing to interview him unlike what the GOP did to Merrick Garland.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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If you wish to break down the numbers further to show where the two factors you mention erase the differentials, feel free. Otherwise you don't have a point.
They don't break down numbers to find facts.
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Old 07-28-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
If you wish to break down the numbers further to show where the two factors you mention erase the differentials, feel free. Otherwise you don't have a point.


I doubt that you are going to be able to account for a 78.5 to 60.5 overall difference with those two factors. And you definitely are not going to account for the fact that RBG got 96 votes to confirm, while Gorsuch got 54. The only way to account for these numbers: Republican senators are bi-partisan and vote on qualifications; Democrat Senators are rabid partisans who vote party line.
Speaking of partisan, the whole lets refuse to bring Garland even up for a vote.

Roberts was the last nominee to get more than half yes votes from the other parts, in fact of the four since him (2 Republican nominees, and 2 Democratic ones), no one has received more than 10 votes from the other party.
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Old 07-28-2018, 04:50 PM
 
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So OP what do you want the Dems to do? Rubber stamp this nominee?
At least the Dems are willing to interview him unlike what the GOP did to Merrick Garland.

joe manchin is the ONLY democrat that has met with kavanaugh, the rest refuse to. so much for your "at least the dems are willing to interview him" bull crap.
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