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We already have Medicare, Public schools and social security and it's poorly run by the government
No it is very popular, which is the entire point. Social democratic policies are popular and extremely hard to get rid of. Thats why there is so much opposition to it among the ruling elites. Once its implemented, it requires tremendous amounts of propaganda and effort to destroy and eliminate it.
Doesn't change the FACT that you Jersyeans and New Yorkers much less in taxes than does the average in Germany plus you make a lot more...so quit your whining, you need to pay 2.5 more in taxes to match the Germans plus take a huge pay cut.
In Germany they will have less expenses. Their property taxes will be lower (is that included?), real estate is cheaper, they won't need to pay for health insurance, they won't need to save to put their children through college education.
They will also have more vacation time, they will have more maternity leave and sick time, etc.
Did your kids go to public schools? Do you drive on roads? Do you think your tax dollars alone could have covered the construction of the roads, the construction of public schools for your kids to learn?
I think schools and roads would exist without anyone (especially non- users) being forced to pay for them.
No it is very popular, which is the entire point. Social democratic policies are popular and extremely hard to get rid of. Thats why there is so much opposition to it among the ruling elites. Once its implemented, it requires tremendous amounts of propaganda and effort to destroy and eliminate it.
Yes once one is addicted to a free high, its hard to break them of the habit.
Doesn't change the FACT that you Jersyeans and New Yorkers much less in taxes than does the average in Germany plus you make a lot more...so quit your whining, you need to pay 2.5 more in taxes to match the Germans plus take a huge pay cut.
Comparing taxes as a share of GDP is such nonsense. It doesnt say anything about what the typical tax rates are for the typical worker and what they get from it. The typical person in NJ and NY pay close to 50% in taxes and reduced wages from employer health insurance. And prices are significantly higher because of the strong dollar (which also increases the wages). And people still have to pay pretty much everything out of pocket, health care, education, child care, retirement etc etc.
I think schools and roads would exist without anyone (especially non- users) being forced to pay for them.
They {schools} existed of course and they were private and only the rich could afford to send their kids to get an education.
One of the largest welfare programs the US undertook was to tax people to fund public education. While not perfect, it allows both poor and middle class people a chance to compete with the wealthy.
As for roads, lol. No those didn't exist. This is why river transport was so important and why so many landlocked US cities are actually built on rivers (St Louis, Minneapolis, etc).
It took the government to have the funds to build roads. And that only came about from increased tax revenue.
There is nothing free about tax payer services. Its the price of civilization, and I bet you and your family has relied on it as well.
For some reason these fools only use this argument against public health care. I don't see them advocating we abolish public education. Shows how they were brainwashed like the good little lemmings they are, by the health insurance lobby.
They existed of course and they were private and only the rich could afford to send their kids to get an education.
One of the largest welfare programs the US undertook was to tax people to fund public education. While not perfect, it allows both poor and middle class people a chance to compete with the wealthy.
Can you substantiate that?
do you deny fed student loans have made a college degree astronomically expensive in relation to the value of the degree?
Do you deny a large part of education funding is to cover admin and pensions (i.e. not teaching).
Do you deny that the internet has made education a possibilty for even the poor?
Do you deny "poor" students receive scholarships?
You forget that it is divided by a factor of 5 or 10 depending on the area.
No, it isn't.
Real property tax burden for a building in a municipality in a Western German Federal State with an average real property tax "B" [non-agriculture/forestry] collection rate of 464 percent:
Assessed Value: EUR 300,000
x Basic real property tax rate: 0.35%
x Muncipal multiplier "B" 464%
= EUR 4,872 (or approx. 1.62%)
See that 464%? That's a Municipal multiplier. It increases the property tax rate from the basic 0.35% to what is actually paid. The multipliers, depending on Municipality, actually go up to 910%. Berlin's is 810%.
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