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Old 08-25-2018, 04:53 AM
 
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Then why isn’t Hillary locked up?
Locked up for what exactly? I know you guys hate her, but what has she been convicted of? I'll wait.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:04 AM
 
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What will Congress realistically do now that Trump has been implicated in a crime?

Nothing. They are controlled by Republicans.
Republicans are scurrying around, ducking into doorways, and crossing their fingers that Mueller will do their job.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:10 AM
 
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Congress will do nothing.

Republicans are afraid to cross Trump for fear their ignorant base will follow him and not them.

Why would Democrats try to impeach him? Even if passed in the House, it would die in the Senate. Why not investigate and expose the whole Republican criminal enterprise?
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Then why isn’t Hillary locked up?
Because there was insufficient evidence to indict her. That's the difference between implication and indictment. Lord knows Nunes tried hard enough to find enough evidence to do it, but he couldn't, and neither could Trey Gowdy earlier.

Sorry, buddy. That's the way the law works for all of us.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Trump was not implicated in a crime. The basis of this whole thread is just a flat out lie.
Yeah, yeah he was. Once that money was paid to silence the woman right before the election it became campaign money, the guy making the payment is a lawyer and he clearly knew it was illegal. Lawyers don't plead guilty if there was no crime committed. Cohen said clearly it was at the direction of the President which should be obvious. Lawyers don't just spend client's money at this level.

It's clearly not enough for impeachment but it's laughable that you folks think he did nothing wrong. But as we've seen for 2 years that's how you roll. You could see a clip of Trump thanking Putin for the help and blame CNN for airing it.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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Trump has been implicated in several crimes including knowing about the Russian hacking before it happened and knowing about the Trump Tower meeting ahead of time.

Now that his personal lawyer and the guy who handled his finances for 40 years are turning state's evidence, there is good reason to believe he will be implicated in even more.

A blind man couldn't miss his constant attempts at obstruction of justice.

But the Republicans in Congress won't to do anything about it and the Democrats can't.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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So if Trump paying off Stormy constitutes campaign finance violation (influencing an election), how does Hillary paying for the dirty dossier (which resulted in the Mueller probe) also not equal campaign finance violation/influencing an election ??
Of course it is but this is the left on a witch hunt. Their candidate could do no wrong.
So far this is a waste of taxpayer money.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yup. Most Congressional Ds would probably vote to impeach him, but they can't do it on their own, it will require a noticeable number of Rs.

There were a number of reasons why the Clinton impeachment failed, but one of them is that Rs forgot that impeachment is a political process. You can be sure that congressional D leadership hasn't forgotten how the Rs ****ed up, and are determined to not **** up the same way themselves.

Plus Mueller understands prosecution, having done it most of his working life. Whereas Starr was a brilliant appellate attorney, who understood how to write briefs and analyze case law, but had never done any prosecuting.

Although I don't agree with you that Mueller will fall silent. He seems like a guy determined to get to the bottom of things.
Yup. There has to be a very careful strategy created and applied with a lot of discipline to make an impeachment work. Otherwise, as the 2 occasions when impeachment happened, it tends to blow up like a bad pistol in the hand of the shooter, and injure the party that brought it much more than the President it was brought against.

I didn't mean to imply that Mueller will stay completely silent. He will probably make make a few statements after releasing his committee's final report, but won't say much at all until then, and probably only when he is forced to say something.

Maybe in time, Mueller will write a book about it after it's all said and done. What's interesting to me is how tight he's held his team together. As far as I know, there has not been a single 'anonymous source' leak so far, and considering the amount of material that had to be examined, his team must be pretty large.

To me, that speaks to Mueller's leadership abilities. Part of being a good leader is selecting a good team to lead.
Mueller's team has been moving along a lot like Sherman's boys moved on to Atlanta.
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Old 08-25-2018, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Yup. There has to be a very careful strategy created and applied with a lot of discipline to make an impeachment work. Otherwise, as the 2 occasions when impeachment happened, it tends to blow up like a bad pistol in the hand of the shooter, and injure the party that brought it much more than the President it was brought against.

I didn't mean to imply that Mueller will stay completely silent. He will probably make make a few statements after releasing his committee's final report, but won't say much at all until then, and probably only when he is forced to say something.

Maybe in time, Mueller will write a book about it after it's all said and done. What's interesting to me is how tight he's held his team together. As far as I know, there has not been a single 'anonymous source' leak so far, and considering the amount of material that had to be examined, his team must be pretty large.

To me, that speaks to Mueller's leadership abilities. Part of being a good leader is selecting a good team to lead.
Mueller's team has been moving along a lot like Sherman's boys moved on to Atlanta.
While I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing Trump impeached, I am not holding my breath. I think it’s more likely that there’s a lot more skullduggery to find, and that Mueller will find it. And that, combined with Trump’s sheer incompetence, will wind up marginalizing Trump and giving more power to Congress. In the long run, that’s not a bad outcome.
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