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Old 08-25-2018, 03:52 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Three of the criminals that were responsible for the toppling of the Confederate soldier statue will face prosecution. Taxpayers will pay for the repairs and reinstallation of the revered statue.

The miscreants that damage public property need to know the public is getting fed-up with their behavior.

https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-new...ays/1393253906
Good. I'm tired of these rallies where they think that they are in the right to vandalize the state's and other people's property all because it happens to offend them that day. Stupid snowflake people.
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Old 08-25-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: NC
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The very intolerant and violent left strikes again.
as usual.
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Old 08-25-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Three of the criminals that were responsible for the toppling of the Confederate soldier statue will face prosecution. Taxpayers will pay for the repairs and reinstallation of the revered statue.

The miscreants that damage public property need to know the public is getting fed-up with their behavior.

https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-new...ays/1393253906
I think this thread is rather disingenuous. I keep close ties in the area and the report is from one news organization based on the statements of one member of UNC's Board of Governors from a YouTube video. Rest assured, if this were settled it would be national news with national coverage.

That folks are willing to buy in that it's a done deal speaks more about wishes than facts. Call me when that chunk of iron gets put back up on the pedestal. Until then this is just garden-variety fake news that any decision has been made.

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Old 08-25-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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Good post, but there's danger in who's heritage and culture gets to be on the accepted list. This "cleansing" of Confederate statues only antagonizes Southerners, and the next step may be tearing down symbols and statues revered by the opposite side.
Want to escalate this?
Living in the southeast for 21 years, I don't hear southerners talk about statues much.
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Old 08-25-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I think that re-installment is nothing but a waste of time, money, and emotional energy.

Since the statue commemorates the students who served in the Civil War, and they're all dead now, I think the most appropriate place for the statue is in the cemetery where the most of those students are interred.

There's nothing at all wrong with remembering history. But, from time to time, history has to be taken in the contexts of the present day. If not, it loses it's instructional value.

If the university truly wants to commemorate it's Civil War veterans, there are better statues that can be made to use for the purpose that wouldn't have the racial divisions built into them as Silent Sam has.

Those who feel racially oppressed will never see Sam as a benign figure. He's fully armed, up on high, looking down on them with resolve and attention. Just like a sniper. That's not a good way to promote racial harmony, period.

But it is still appropriate in a cemetery, where those dead carried those feelings with them to the grave. Many died for their beliefs of racial superiority in the war. Let Sam commemorate them them where they are and where he belongs.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Good news. No statue should be torn down that way. It's been there for over 100 years, and is an intrinsic part of history and should never be removed. Its removal would be just an early step to more race based and motivated cleansings.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I'm glad, Southern pigeons are finding things to crap on in short supply
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I think this thread is rather disingenuous. I keep close ties in the area and the report is from one news organization based on the statements of one member of UNC's Board of Governors from a YouTube video. Rest assured, if this were settled it would be national news with national coverage.

That folks are willing to buy in that it's a done deal speaks more about wishes than facts. Call me when that chunk of iron gets put back up on the pedestal. Until then this is just garden-variety fake news that any decision has been made.
Yup. One member's opinion may not be the Board's consensus.

Once the statue is back up, it's bound to be vandalized again now. Each time will only escalate the possibility for violence, and will surely increase the costs of protecting it.

Every time it gets torn down will only increase the statue's damage from the last time. Repairing old bronze statuary is neither cheap nor easy to do if someone takes a cutting torch or two to it.

I think that if they Board truly wants the statue to survive, it should be moved to the closest Confederate cemetery and placed there, where it's most fitting.

A plaque or some less divisive memorial, that possibly included the names of the fallen students in all our other wars including names since the Civil War, and also including the Civil War dead, would be more appropriate and much less prone to vandalism.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Why waste taxpayer $ to repair a racist statue?
That's your opinion. The repair and re-installation will serve as a lesson to the anarchists you defend.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Yup. One member's opinion may not be the Board's consensus.

Once the statue is back up, it's bound to be vandalized again now. Each time will only escalate the possibility for violence, and will surely increase the costs of protecting it.

I think that if they Board truly wants the statue to survive, it should be moved to the closest Confederate cemetery and placed there, where it's most fitting.

A plaque or some less divisive memorial, that possibly included the names of the fallen students in all our other wars including names since the Civil War, and also including the Civil War dead, would be more appropriate and much less prone to vandalism.
Prone to vandalism? Maybe the homes of the vandals will see some "vandalism" next time.
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