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Old 08-26-2018, 06:52 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by Old Town FFX View Post
I guess because he's a young white kid.
Probably raised by feeble parents never taught how to cope with losing. Participation trophy winner Yada Yada...
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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According to the UK Daily News ...... he lost his round and was a "sore loser".

Witnesses have said the shooter was a player who had just lost in the tournament. One witness told CNN he saw the gunman shoot multiple people before killing himself.
An obvious case of the shooter standing his ground according to Florida law.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Yeah, Im sure ALL of the guns stores in the country perform background checks on every gun they sell to new customers...ok..
You think street knuckleheads are the only ones not following the laws?
If they don't if they sell a firearm without a background check then they are running the risk of loosing their license, of being brought up on gun running changes and face Federal Jail time. It is required for a Licensed Gun Store to run a background check. If they don't the store owner/personal are breaking both Federal/State gun laws.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I guess because he's a young white kid.
Kid? He's 24...or was.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87 View Post
Uhh they do. As someone who came very close to opening a gun store and getting an SOT to manufacture machine guns... yes... you do perform a background check on EVERY sale... Otherwise, should such an event occur and that weapon gets traced back to you it's a long time in the steel bar hotel... and HEFTY fines...
At all the flea market gun sales too? Theres no way all the gun sellers are doing all the background checks that they should be doing. Thats the only way this kid could have gotten a gun unless he got it from a friend, or parent.
Thats why a new system is needed for only government verified arms sellers so we know every one of them are scanning and tracing each sale. We dont need a million flea market and mom and pop gun shops in the country now.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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There are actually plenty of solutions.
  • Getting the government to crack down on the black market
  • Enacting the same laws nationwide with stricter registration, mandatory national database like cars, no grandfather clauses, EVERYone has to register their weapons
  • Closing down all gun shops that dont do background checks on sales, or registrations
  • Disposal/destruction or exporting of any guns confiscated by ATF, including those redistributed to crime areas from law enforcement
  • Red flag/baker laws enforced for the nut jobs
  • Eliminate gun and ammunition purchases online, in person only
  • End legal immunity for gun manufacturers

If the sellers are too strict for criminals to get the guns, and everything is traceable, the crime doesnt happen. Law enforcement is trying to track the criminals with the guns, but theyre behind the ball, by then its too late. Stop the black market sales, the criminals cant get the guns.
All of this just to start help stop the illegal flow of guns across state lines to criminals, reduces the gun crime, yet the law abiding owners can keep theirs. Whats so bad about that?
There are plenty of sensible things we could do. Likely easily if we got enough political will to follow through as a nation.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Kid? He's 24...or was.
OK. So he was a white man.

Does that make excusing his behavior any different?
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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If they don't if they sell a firearm without a background check then they are running the risk of loosing their license, of being brought up on gun running changes and face Federal Jail time. It is required for a Licensed Gun Store to run a background check. If they don't the store owner/personal are breaking both Federal/State gun laws.
I understand that, but who here is verifying that all of the gun shops are following this law? It all needs to be registered and tracked.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: PSL
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An obvious case of the shooter standing his ground according to Florida law.
If that's your attempt at humor it was a bad one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=_asNhzXq72w

Stand your ground does not allow you to murder in cold blood because your feeble liberal parents and/or liberal school teachers never taught you how to cope with losing...
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm offering nothing other than people should arm themselves better, in order to possibly prevent the next one of these. You're not taking away my gun.
Diff between prevention and reaction.

No shortage of armed police and civilians in Dallas, in 2016, when a sniper ambushed Dallas Police officers. 5 officers were killed. 7 officers and 2 civilians injured.

People ran for their lives including those doing the open carry thing. It was impossible for people to distinguish between the sniper and those fleeing with their rifles flung over theIf shoulders.
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