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‘Bigger Than Watergate’? Both Sides Say Yes, but for Different Reasons.
By Peter Baker
Watergate has long been the touchstone for modern American scandal, the mountain of misconduct against which all others are judged... But rarely has the comparison been as intense and persistent as during the 16 months since Mr. Trump took office — a comparison deployed by both sides in hopes of shaping the narrative of wrongdoing. What started out as an inquiry into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election has mushroomed into questions of perjury, obstruction of justice, conspiracy, abuse of power, illicit spying, hush money, tax fraud, money laundering and influence peddling.
But the point of Nixon's actions were the same as Trumps. Steal Democratic Candidate materials to try and create a shadow over their campaign , or at the very least find out if they had any dirt on Nixon himself.to throw the election one way. Watergate to Nixon.
Russiagate to Trump.
Russiagate involves Foriegn enemy actors that would also directly benefit from the theft and placing Trump in office .
Watergate was all homeland but still cheating.
Nixon got a slap on the wrist.
Trump got blindsided by the dossier. Lol.
He 'll feel the full hammer of the law.
This has been proved wrong. Will you come back and tell us what you think now?
This is very different, Watergate was very straight forward and of course they had the tapes and John Dean, easy to prove obstruction of justice. The threshold for obstruction of justice for a president is relatively high as it should be and they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Although this part is over this is going to go on for some time.
This is very different, Watergate was very straight forward and of course they had the tapes and John Dean, easy to prove obstruction of justice. The threshold for obstruction of justice for a president is relatively high as it should be and they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Although this part is over this is going to go on for some time.
‘bigger than watergate’? Sides say yes, but for different reasons.
by peter baker
watergate has long been the touchstone for modern american scandal, the mountain of misconduct against which all others are judged... But rarely has the comparison been as intense and persistent as during the 16 months since mr. Trump took office — a comparison deployed by both sides in hopes of shaping the narrative of wrongdoing. What started out as an inquiry into russia’s meddling in the 2016 election has mushroomed into questions of perjury, obstruction of justice, conspiracy, abuse of power, illicit spying, hush money, tax fraud, money laundering and influence peddling.
This is very different, Watergate was very straight forward and of course they had the tapes and John Dean, easy to prove obstruction of justice. The threshold for obstruction of justice for a president is relatively high as it should be and they could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Although this part is over this is going to go on for some time.
We have tapes too. Its called digital or cable, or streaming live.
Trump calls it fake. The crook calls it fake. LOL... "that s a fake dead body" LOL
No it wasn't.
It was no easier than Watergate, nor any harder.
It was just different. The nature of the crimes are entirely different, and so are the times. The Russians lacked the ability to do their dirty business in the 1970s, because the internet didn't exist.
No one had ever crashed a jet airliner into one of our skyscrapers intentionally until it happened.
The Soviet empire didn't collapse until it did.
History happens every day. As it changes, so does everything else. You and I were there in the 1970s, but our lives were entirely different from what they are now.
Sure it was. Just stick Samantha Powers working with the Anwan brothers, snooping through the NSA database, unbridled. Reporting to Susan Rice, who was reporting to Valarie Jarrett, who was reporting to none other than Barack Hussein Obama
Will it be bigger than Watergate when it finally comes down? Oh, my, yes!
Nixon was many things, but I'm absolutely sure he never desired to become a dictator. He served in WWII, the greatest fight against dictatorship in the 20th century. Nixon himself challenged some of the century's greatest dictators personally.
We tend to think of Hitler when we think of a dictator, but Mao Tse Tung, Malenkov, Kruschev, Pol Pot, and others were just as bad or worse. Nixon directly confronted them all.
Watergate was totally an internal affair that had no foreign connections. Nixon only wanted to disgrace and humiliate a few of his personal enemies. If his orders hadn't been illegal, his downfall would have never happened.
This is the very first time in our history that a foreign nation has tried to subvert an election.
Elections are the bedrock foundation of our democracy. Everything else in our governmental structure depends on them alone. That's why we worry about tampering, election rigging, gerrymandering, and all the other stuff so much. But all that is still only an internal problem inside the United States.
We have never faced a foreign nation who wants to take us over using our own government to do it before. But it's happened, many times, in other countries large and small.
Elections are the foundation of any democracy. In a strong democracy, subverting an election may be the only way to destroy a democracy and replace it with a dictatorship.
This alone makes Watergate a lesser affair than this present affair. The crimes committed this time are much, much more serious in nature.
This didn't age well for you at all.. What is clear now is that Russiagate was an attempt overthrow an election because the people you believe in couldn't accept that they had lost and lost bigly. They were unable to win an election by fair means. They put their interests first in front of the voters.
So yes, elections are very much the bedrock of our democracy and we see the rot on the left side to trying and eliminate it for their own means. Russiagate to bleating about the popular vote. If you actually believe in what you say, why do you still support them without question or thought.
Way worse than Watergate when the entire scene is looked at. Trump is a better crook than Nixon, I'll give him that. And all the Crooks around him are fairly expert at fraud, tax avoidance and other such things.
By the time this is over I expect over 25 individuals and numerous corporations (Russian, mostly) and others implicated.
Using the Tip of the Iceberg theory that means basically the entire swamp is quicksand.
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