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Old 09-09-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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Yes, and cancel ALL of your insurance policies because you've never been in an accident, and your house hasn't been destroyed. You know we should have waited for the Germans, and Japanese to get to our mainland before fighting them.
We did. ....
wait for the Japanese to attack America before fighting them.
Regardless, this bolsters Trumps Fear Administration policies. Just like the business model of insurance companies...be afraid of catastrophe every day . your house, your health, your car, your tuition, ...many people are on the street now from protecting themselves so much. Never to rarely a return on that $$.

Like Trump, " if I m not reelected people will be poor."

It s a rare to none return for your vote to vote for Trump...or more relevant right now...a Trump republcan.

Facts and figures surrounding Trump that are mysteriously " greater than any other administration " should be viewed with great suspicion. Ya know, consider the source... fake
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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There are certain things like military that we should never try to save money on. You wouldn't try to save money on things that protect you and your family, would you? So why would you not do the same for the country?
Nobody forced Obama to initiate drone strikes over much of the Muslim world. Nobody forced him to put known ideological neocons into key positions of influence and power in State and the Pentagon. Nobody forced him to give Israel a free hand in Gaza and the occupied strip. Nobody forced him to help the French and British destroy the wealthiest country in Africa (Libya) and turn it into an ISIS stronghold. Nobody forced him to encourage Ukrainian Nazi’s to attack ethnic Russians without consequence. Nobody forced him to pursue a ’tilt to the Pacific’ aimed at isolating China with the inevitable blow-back. Nobody forced him to interfere in Syria with the aim of getting rid of Assad. Nobody forced him to continue a policy of isolating and undermining progressive democratic governments in South and Central America. He’s proven very good at giving the notion that all these things ‘just happened’ as he sat back looking on. I don’t buy it.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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After trying to stomach part of Obama's recent campaign speech trying to take credit for this booming economy, jobs returning to the US and new trade deals being worked I had to wonder what happened to the Obama who wondered how this was all going to happen.

He was clueless then on how to make the economy strong and now he wants credit. If it was up to Obama, we'd raise taxes and go back to the old 1% growth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhXkCF-L2E



The economy trend started during the Obama administration.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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So let's not be proactive, and wait for our enemies to attack us on our shores like on 9/11. Part of national defense is fighting your enemy elsewhere. Did we fight WWII on the continental U.S.? Add History courses to your list.
When you read the history of long lived empires, from Rome to the British Empire, a common characteristic they all have is an acute awareness of how to manipulate local dynamics in order to maintain control without expending too much manpower. Ironically, the US military seems to completely lack this capacity. In fact, rather than being in charge, a common feature seems to be that US military power is all too easily manipulated by local powerbrokers for their own ends.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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For the want of enforcing his red line, Mr Obama helped to unleash the rise of right political movement momentum in Europe. Ironic isn't it?

He chose feckless dithering, instead.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Trump followers are like a cult. They eat up whatever BS he is selling.
At least he can sell
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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The economy is stronger with less government reaching into the peoples pocket, to redistribute the wealth to unproductive people with way less value in society. Along with less pressure of that boot on your throat, of regulations and red tape keeping ordinary people from the upward mobility of self employment.
It’s not Obama’s fault that so many right wingers were failing during his presidency. They should’ve pulled up their bootstraps.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Obama 2016: Those jobs are gone and are never coming back!
after 2 years of Trump...
Obama 2018: My policies brought those jobs back!

Trump deports a real (not liberal fantasy) Nazi, Obama asks why he doesn't reject Nazis more? How many Nazis did Obama get rid of?
The jobs referenced in the OP video are largely gone. Our Dear Leader wasn't able to save them.

As for manufacturing jobs in general, the trend line turned at the end of 2009. Manufacturing jobs have been slowly rising ever since. However, they have not reached the levels of 2000, much less the greatly decreased levels of 2008. Many of those jobs require greater levels of training just as Obama indicated in the video. Bottom line Our Dear Leader has yet to change the trend lines in place prior to his Presidency.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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He was clueless then on how to make the economy strong and now he wants credit. If it was up to Obama, we'd raise taxes and go back to the old 1% growth.
1. Job growth under Obama was stronger than under Trump so far.
2. GDP growth under Trump so far has been no different than Obama's last 7 years.

It's really sad how the Trumplings have to make up these "facts" in order to prove something to themselves.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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After trying to stomach part of Obama's recent campaign speech trying to take credit for this booming economy, jobs returning to the US and new trade deals being worked I had to wonder what happened to the Obama who wondered how this was all going to happen.
He was clueless then on how to make the economy strong and now he wants credit. If it was up to Obama, we'd raise taxes and go back to the old 1% growth.
You do understand, right, that the beginning of a new president's term, the economy is due to was he inherited from his predecessor?

Here's an example. Things took a nosedive at the end of GWB, which Obama inherited, and Obama started pulling us out of it almost immediately,

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yeLmRChB8O...olllingGDP.jpg
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