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Old 09-25-2018, 07:33 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I suspect that is what skewing and distorting what is really happening.
I agree.

I know a quite a few couples (Millennials) who have been together for years, who live together, and some even own property and have children together... but they haven't walked down the aisle or signed on the dotted line, for various reasons.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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18-23 are just kids.
Another 50 years and we will be saying that about 25-30 year olds. I got married at 21, wife was also 21, after less than 6 months of dating, didn't know each other before we met through a mutual friend and I proposed after 3 months. 12 years, and almost a month, later and we couldn't be happier. My parents were divorced twice each, their mistakes with relationships had zero bearing on how I live my life.

Novel idea, while dating someone actually get to know them and explore their dreams, interests, etc. Dump the ones that don't line up with yours and move on instead of dragging out a relationship for no real reason. I knew in the first month exactly what my wife wanted out of life, her favorite music, moral/religious/political beliefs, stance on kids, financial status, and a whole lot of other stuff. If it didn't line up with myself I would have dumped her and moved on. I was far too busy back then to waste my time on something that I knew wouldn't work in the long term, like a super religious Republican for example.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:54 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Finally millennials being credited with something positive ..

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Americans under the age of 45 have found a novel way to rebel against their elders: They’re staying married.

New data show younger couples are approaching relationships very differently from baby boomers, who married young, divorced, remarried and so on. Generation X and especially millennials are being pickier about who they marry, tying the knot at older ages when education, careers and finances are on track. The result is a U.S. divorce rate that dropped 18 percent from 2008 to 2016, according to an analysis by University of Maryland sociology professor Philip Cohen.


https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true
Part of the reason is millennias aren't getting marred in the first place, whilst those that do generally get married at a later stage in life, and that makes it too early say if those millenials who have married will never divorce. They may well be divorced in the future. You also have a lot more civil partnership and the like going on, and civil partnerships are increasingly counted as a form of marriage.

Why Aren't Millennials Getting Married? | HuffPost
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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I'm surprised they haven't given Gen Z any credit. Hardly any of them have gotten a divorce.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:11 AM
 
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Especially since people in their early twenties today are less mature than people the same age were in 1960. I live in a part of the country where there's a lot of social pressure to get married before age 25 and I could just never see myself doing it. This is just my personal experience and observation but most people I've known who have married young have not lasted. These days a person's life changes so much between ages 18 and 25 it can put a lot of strain on a relationship.
Every generation thinks they're better than the next. Do you have any statistical data that proves that people in their twenties are less mature than others the same age in the 1960's, or is this some nonsencial opinion yours to make yourself feel better by uplifting your generation? I'm going to go with the latter.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Hell high school still seems like yesterday to me
It all goes by so fast.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:06 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Finally millennials being credited with something positive ..

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Americans under the age of 45 have found a novel way to rebel against their elders: They’re staying married.

New data show younger couples are approaching relationships very differently from baby boomers, who married young, divorced, remarried and so on. Generation X and especially millennials are being pickier about who they marry, tying the knot at older ages when education, careers and finances are on track. The result is a U.S. divorce rate that dropped 18 percent from 2008 to 2016, according to an analysis by University of Maryland sociology professor Philip Cohen.


https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mpression=true
So the divorce rate has dropped 18%, what's the marriage rate? Look at that and you will see that the real trend is less marriages among younger people. Of course if you follow the Hollywood news you would assume the average marriage only lasts 28 months, seems sex out of wedlock would save the both parties a lot of time and money...
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:09 AM
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18-23 are just kids.
Married 2 weeks after I turned 21 wife was 24, we'll be celebrating 37 years in November, I guess we should have divorced a few decades ago.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Every generation thinks they're better than the next. Do you have any statistical data that proves that people in their twenties are less mature than others the same age in the 1960's, or is this some nonsencial opinion yours to make yourself feel better by uplifting your generation? I'm going to go with the latter.
I genuinely don't know if this is a "fact" or just a common observation. However, I think what people may be misconstruing for a difference in maturity level, was actually caused the societal and economic differences from mid century to now.

Less people went to (or had to go) to college, as there were still enough jobs with benefits that provided a living wage. Those that did go to college, would have found it more affordable so were less likely to be sunk in student debt. Therefore, the average age to buy a first house was also younger than the early to mid 30s that it is today.

Millennials are starting to set down roots later in part because they're waiting to be able to afford what their parents/grandparents had first (i.e a house, reliable car, job with benefits that pays the bills, etc). Because for many it isn't happening until later, I think that plays into the way their maturity level is perceived.

On the flip side, if you go to almost any major military town in the country, you'll find that quite a lot of service men and women seem to get married younger than their civilian counterparts- while the extra pay and lifestyle benefits for a service member are a bonus, I believe the fact that the promise of housing or BAH and a guaranteed paycheck factors into the decisions to marry younger as well. There is a certain element of financial security that isn't the case for many in the private sector.
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Old 09-26-2018, 06:11 AM
 
Location: In the outlet by the lightswitch
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I think only one person in this whole thread actually read the article. From the article:


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But Cohen calculates the divorce rate as a ratio of divorces to the total number of married women. So, the divorce rate’s decline isn’t a reflection of a decline in marriages. Rather, it’s evidence that marriages today have a greater chance of lasting than marriages did ten years ago.

So it doesn't matter if the marriage rate is declining, they are only looking at people who were married. Those who marry are more likely to stay married than they were in the past.



That said the decline in marriage rates probably is helping. Those who shouldn't get married and can't stay in a marriage aren't pressured to marry anymore (like people were in the past). It's not that any generation is better or worse than another so much as this newer generation isn't being pressured to conform to something they don't want to/aren't really cut out to do in the first place. But those who do want to marry and are cut out for a life-long monogamous relationship still do so.
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