Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 14 6.25%
58-60 7 3.13%
55-57 13 5.80%
50-54 144 64.29%
49 or less 46 20.54%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
8,632 posts, read 10,152,688 times
Reputation: 7995

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Snacks View Post
How about them? The same article you used as proof disproves your claim. And even if it were true, Dr. Ford wasn't the one doing it. Further down in the article, it says, "In a statement, David Laufman, McLean's attorney, denied the allegations, writing: "Any notion or claim that Ms. McLean pressured Leland Keyser to alter Ms. Keyser’s account of what she recalled concerning the alleged incident between Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh is absolutely false."

So what were you saying again?
David Laufman? This David Laufman:

Two more officials cited in FBI texts step down - 2/8/18

Quote:
Two more senior government officials who were prominently discussed in text messages exchanged by FBI personnel formerly assigned to the Trump-Russia investigation are leaving their positions.

Mike Kortan, FBI assistant director for public affairs, is set to retire next week, an FBI spokeswoman confirmed. In addition, the chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section, David Laufman, resigned this week, a department spokesman said.

Laufman had served since 2014 as the top Justice Department official overseeing espionage investigations, as well as cases involving foreign lobbying and leaks of classified information. That put Laufman in charge of the Hillary Clinton email probe and aspects of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election — an inquiry handed off last May to special counsel Robert Mueller.

Laufman’s exit is more surprising. It was first reported by The Washington Post, which said he told colleagues he was leaving for personal reasons.

Both men are discussed in text messages sent by senior FBI Agent Peter Strzok and FBI attorney Lisa Page. President Donald Trump and many Republican lawmakers have argued that the texts are evidence of anti-Trump bias at senior levels of the Justice Department and FBI.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-resign-400533

Oh yeah, he can definitely be trusted...lol.

 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:51 AM
 
11,186 posts, read 6,508,677 times
Reputation: 4622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Yes she probably should recuse herself if a case came before her regarding Trump but I don't expect any issues directly related to Trump to come before the court, do you>


If she made that statement at a hearing she should be disqualified, a SCJ should demonstrate independence, demeanor and fairness beyond any doubt. Remember Kavanauhg's 2015 speech where he stated "a judge shouldn't be a jerk and avoid any semblance of partisanship".


What did you see last Thursday but a judge screaming about conspiracy theories and insulting senators, that's the judge you want on the high court. I'm betting the 8 other justices on the court hoping he doesn't get appointed.
I empathize with the anguish and desperation you and many others feel.

At this time in 2016 you were expecting Clinton to appoint a Ginsburg/Sotomayor type to replace Scalia. Ginsburg could retire as well and you'd get a younger version of her. Then, oopsie, the unthinkable. Trump wins and you get two conservatives [entitled, privileged, white, and apparently biological cisgender males]. With the possibility of more appointments.

Yes, I feel your pain
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
3,100 posts, read 3,302,796 times
Reputation: 1697
Good thing we don't need to know if the assault on Ford really happened to make a judgment on Kavanaugh.

We can do it on his lying under oath about multiple subjects before the sexual allegations even came up, like claiming he didn't receive or know about documents stolen from the Democrats, or that he wasn't involved in such-and-such legal matters while there are e-mails showing he was summoned to conferences about those very things.

As to Kavanaugh not being partisan, even if we set aside his hyper-partisan ranting during his testimony, we also have, again, him receiving confidential documents stolen from Democrats and then perjuring himself over it, and his hounding of Vince Foster's family and perpetuating of conspiracy theories about his death during his time working for Kenneth Starr.

By rights, Kavanaugh disqualified himself before Ford said a word, by committing perjury multiple times over multiple subjects.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:54 AM
 
7,269 posts, read 4,214,344 times
Reputation: 5466
Quote:
A woman that Christine Blasey Ford claimed was at the party where Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her circa 1982 told FBI investigators that Dr. Ford's "allies" tried to pressure her to change her story about what happened.

Leland Keyser told investigators that Ford's friend, former FBI agent Monica McLean, had urged her to alter the original statement that she gave about not remembering any such party and not knowing Kavanaugh, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The Journal noted that Keyser's statement to the FBI offered "a glimpse into how Dr. Ford’s allies were working behind the scenes to lobby old classmates to bolster their versions of the alleged incident."
Dem voters were played by their own. Hope they see that - doubt they will.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
37,972 posts, read 22,157,422 times
Reputation: 13803
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumann Koch View Post
And cars will be set on fire, windows smashed, and stores looted.

Yes, we all know what is going to happen in the name of the Left's perverted interpretation of the First Amendment.

So much for tolerance, love, peace, and understanding!
Maybe they will run around in some cities, with mobs of dozens or hundreds of angry dems, and beat any Kavanaugh supporters?

Don't smirk. Hilary and Bernie supporters did exactly that to Trump supporters, on numerous occasions back in 2016.

Sad thing is, it won't matter how angry and violent these people get. a week from now most the dems and liberal progressives around here will continue the lie, that it's violence from those on the Republican side who we are supposed to fear.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:55 AM
 
1,885 posts, read 3,403,320 times
Reputation: 1755
Democrats take issue with Brett Kavanaugh’s jurisprudence, and the fact that he’s poised to protect Trump from a life of schemes and con’s that have come home to roost. It has little if anything to do with Dr. Ford’s allegations against him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re mostly on the fence with regard to the legitimacy of Ford’s claims. No matter what any FBI investigation uncovers, Kavanaugh is a NO to Democrats. It also doesn’t help that he drank Jordan dry.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
9,267 posts, read 5,121,245 times
Reputation: 8471
Feinstein on the floor running her mouth about guns. She caused this fiasco, and yet forges ahead with her senile diatribe.

Keep it up! The Left is unhinged and not ashamed to display it!

KAG!
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
5,742 posts, read 4,701,984 times
Reputation: 12819
Quote:
Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
How was it falsely accusing. And Dr Ford had nothing to gain and everything to lose. Have you ever been assaulted. Sorry for asking. If you have, you would know how it damages women. But I seem to be beating a dead horse here.
Silly people. Some of you think this whole thing is still about an alleged sexual assault.

It's not. Think bigger.

This is about the shape and direction of the USA.

Dr. Ford is not just some random person. She isn't some middle-class lady from the suburbs. She is an alt-left RESIST activist doing the work of the DEEP STATE.

I posted this summary yesterday, but I'll add it again here...



Nothing in politics is coincidence.

Dr. Ford's grandfather was a CIA operative.
Dr. Ford's father runs 3 companies for the CIA.
Dr. Ford herself runs the CIA intern program at Stanford.
The 3 companies that Dr. Ford's father runs are all located in the same bldg in DC. Also in the same bldg is Baker Hostetler Law Firm and Fusion GPS.
Dr. Ford's brother, Ralph Blasey, worked for Baker Hostetler for 15 years.
Baker Hostetler hired Fusion GPS to create the "Russian Dossier" on Trump.
Julie Swetnick worked for one of the companies run by Dr. Ford's father for 12 years.

With all those connections, she had "no idea" how to contact the Senate Judiciary Committee, so she had to ask her "beach friends".

And don't forget her "Beach Friend", who helped her write her original letter, just happened to be career FBI. The same friend that Dr. Ford coached on how to beat a polygraph test.

And she still, to this day, has not contacted the local police about the assault. Because it never happened!



The future of the progressive movement is at stake if the Supreme Court leans conservative, and the Dems have admitted they will do "whatever they need to" to stop it.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 07:59 AM
 
718 posts, read 599,519 times
Reputation: 1152
Quote:
Originally Posted by finalmove View Post
Feinstein on the floor running her mouth about guns. She caused this fiasco, and yet forges ahead with her senile diatribe.

Keep it up! The Left is unhinged and not ashamed to display it!

KAG!
And now bringing up Dr Fraud and Ramirez

Lord, I wish she would move to China
 
Old 10-05-2018, 08:00 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
20,126 posts, read 16,163,816 times
Reputation: 28335
Quote:
Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
NEVER equate what happened to Emmett Till with Bret Kavanaugh.

Your equating those two circumstances shows you have so little historical knowledge and empathy that your perspective is set in granite.

Brett Kavanaugh could have been one of the men in that lynch mob...
He is a "victim" that has suffered no harm because apparently he is going to get what he wants and the President wanted
He will likely be voted onto the Court...and laugh at how he has manipulated the American public and the political system...
The "emotional" toll likely won't last any longer than the vote...

The GOP of the South now are the sons and daughters of those who were voting Democratic after the Civil War simply because Lincoln was a Republican...
They turned when LBJ forced the Civil Rights Legislation through and made the laws of the US elevate African Americans to an equal footing -- at least in law--with whites...so the South lost its weighty ability to abuse blacks on almost every level--but we know from all manner of means that racism was not eradicated in the South or in other parts of the country--and we can see that it has come home to roost in the GOP w/Trump

The South turned GOP because of its refusal to be part of a party that would espouse Civil Rights...
And that still seems to be one of the high points of voting GOP---to oppose equal rights for any minority--
Be it racially based or gender based or religious based...

Emmitt Till has more in common with Christine Ford any day of the week than Brett Kavanaugh--
The reason Kavanaugh is claiming to be a victim is because that appeals to the bunkered point of view of the GOP...especially the males who always feel threatened by women who want equality...
It was a very effective POLITICAL point of view....it strikes a lot of notes with the base...

Kavanaugh has come out now with a sop to the people who took issue with his partisan, hysterical rant on Thursday...
If he were HONEST he wouldn't have to do that--he would stand by what he had said if he really felt he was a victim...I guess that makes him a real Snowflake...but anything to get that job...
It is just more protective political strategy
It is an absolutely appropriate comparison. The state of Mississippi murdered a 14-year old child because the woman accusing him was automatically assumed to be telling the truth and he was burdened with trying to prove he was innocent - and anyone who tried to provide him support faced peril of their own just for implying she might not be telling the truth. Sound familiar? Yeah, the stakes are less perilous but the dismal of the presumption of innocence is the same and the attacking of anyone disputing the accusser’s story are the same.

What terrifies me about all of this is that I keep thinking is that if an affluent, well connected, middle aged white man can be automatically considered guilty to unsubstantiated charges from decades ago what chance would my younger, black sons, grandsons, and nephews have?
__________________
When I post in bold red that is moderator action and, per the TOS, can only be discussed through Direct Message.Moderator - Diabetes and Kentucky (including Lexington & Louisville)
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:33 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top