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Capitalist are the most authoritarian of all because they believe in the freedom of one individual exploiting and limiting the freedoms of another.
When labor is seen as a commodity that should be bought and sold, slavery is the end product. That is why you rightists hate individual freedom for all.
This is a truly deranged post.
Freedom of individuals to do as they wish by voluntarily entering into agreements with others, (criminal conduct of course is not within the meaning of this freedom of the individual).....thats what capitalism implies. You have the right to sell your labor, since your labor is your property. You also have the right to buy someone else's labor, since they have the right to sell it.
Freedom of individuals to do as they wish by voluntarily entering into agreements with others, (criminal conduct of course is not within the meaning of this freedom of the individual).....thats what capitalism implies. You have the right to sell your labor, since your labor is your property. You also have the right to buy someone else's labor, since they have the right to sell it.
You sound like a commie.
Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat!
Wage slavery or starvation thats not a choice thats a threat!
What the hell are you on about? If you don't want to sell your labor, then DONT.
Its your choice. You can work for yourself instead. But somehow, you have to get your labor to yield a profit. So do whatever you wish to do that...sell your labor, don't sell your labor...you have the freedom!
What the hell are you on about? If you don't want to sell your labor, then DONT.
Its your choice. You can work for yourself instead. But somehow, you have to get your labor to yield a profit. So do whatever you wish to do that...sell your labor, don't sell your labor...you have the freedom!
You're missing to important factors. Context and external affects.
For context, an agreement between two people is not always equal. If someone is starving and I am the only one with food and I sell it to him for such a high price that he goes into debt to me, then yes we both agree on the terms but I am exploiting that person's situation. Being as situations are based on social stratification in capitalist environment by how much capital one has legal claim to, this situation is common place, but to different degrees.
Number 2, you ignore externalities, if I make a deal with one person to buy/sell a good/service, it will often times have an affect on people around me who did not voluntarily agree to that deal. Being as humans live amongst each other, the actions of one have ripple affects, and without putting that into consideration, capitalist are just promoting the marginalization of other people's freedom for the sake of capital exchange.
You're missing to important factors. Context and external affects.
For context, an agreement between two people is not always equal. If someone is starving and I am the only one with food and I sell it to him for such a high price that he goes into debt to me, then yes we both agree on the terms but I am exploiting that person's situation. Being as situations are based on social stratification in capitalist environment by how much capital one has legal claim to, this situation is common place, but to different degrees.
Number 2, you ignore externalities, if I make a deal with one person to buy/sell a good/service, it will often times have an affect on people around me who did not voluntarily agree to that deal. Being as humans live amongst each other, the actions of one have ripple affects, and without putting that into consideration, capitalist are just promoting the marginalization of other people's freedom for the sake of capital exchange.
This is all nonsense. People have agency, and the freedom to do what they wish to with their own body and the labor it provides, or with any capital they might accrue, which is really just a stored form of labor itself. If you do foolish things with your labor or capital, you might wind up in a bad situation.
someone sent this to me and I thought it was pretty well made and articulate for those of you who like PragerU. I think this video can change your mind.
It isn't though. The business owner controls if you live or not. Thats why we need to smash the hierarchy of capitalism and have worker run cooperatives.
Capitalist are the most authoritarian of all because they believe in the freedom of one individual exploiting and limiting the freedoms of another.
When labor is seen as a commodity that should be bought and sold, slavery is the end product. That is why you rightists hate individual freedom for all.
Do you feel better now?
Look, I hate capitalism more than just about anyone on this forum, but this post is basically bull****, and won't win anyone over.
"A man who is without capital, and who, by prohibitions upon banking, is practically forbidden to hire any, is in a condition elevated but one degree above that of a chattel slave. He may live; but he can live only as the servant of others; compelled to perform such labor, and to perform it at such prices, as they may see fit to dictate." - Lysander Spooner
Capitalism is not the most-authoritarian form of government, but we need to define what exactly we mean by capitalism.
And if your argument is that capitalism leads to slavery, I assume you don't mean whips and chains, but rather you are using slavery as a metaphor for "institutionally coerced-labor"?
"In democratic countries, the most important private organizations are economic. Unlike secret societies, they are able to exercise their terrorism without illegality, since they do not threaten to kill their enemies, but only to starve them." - Bertrand Russell
So what system do you want? And if your answer is communism, please explain why so-called communists governments were/are probably the most-authoritarian the world has ever seen.
Capitalist are the most authoritarian of all because they believe in the freedom of one individual exploiting and limiting the freedoms of another.
Capitalism is about the free exchange of goods, services and labor for compensation. Crony capitalism however is not, but is when monopolies form, typically by government interference
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When labor is seen as a commodity that should be bought and sold, slavery is the end product. That is why you rightists hate individual freedom for all.
Slavery? Typical Anarcho-Socialist hyperbole to be ignored.
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