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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-01-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Unarmed? I don't know one way or the other.
Contraband? How would I know?

I don't feel that it's right to let them in--our resources are already stretched and a lot of US citizens don't even want to help other Americans. We should help Americans first.
Keep letting them in? We won't have a country anymore. But I'm all for LEGAL immigration.

No. No one thinks it's okay for free medical care, food stamps, etc.
Last silly question: is that a yes or a no?

Liberals don't want open borders. We do not want illegals but we have the compassion to let some of these people in IF they truly do quality for asylum. However, we are being conned by many of the illegals and we cannot afford to support them. This is not the land of milk and honey that they think it is.
Not one single person in that particular caravan truly qualifies for asylum in the United States. Mexico, the first (2nd or 3rd) country they entered, offered them services and asylum processing - which they refused. Only the first country a fleeing person go to is required to consider an application for asylum by international laws and/or agreements. Nothing is a bigger indication that it isn’t about fleeing for your life than refusing asylum that is offered because you would rather go somewhere else.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:13 AM
 
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I’m beginning to think that Trump wants people to be so afraid of people trying to “get into our country”, that he is the one who manufactured all this. People keep saying this caravan is paid to do this and the obvious person to benefit from it is Trump.

The whole media fearmongering is his thing. He uses the media to do just that.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:14 AM
 
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Not one single person in that particular caravan truly qualifies for asylum in the United States. Mexico, the first (2nd or 3rd) country they entered, offered them services and asylum processing - which they refused. Only the first country a fleeing person go to is required to consider an application for asylum by international laws and/or agreements. Nothing is a bigger indication that it isn’t about fleeing for your life than refusing asylum that is offered because you would rather go somewhere else.
This.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:24 AM
 
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Surprise! SOmebody else has figured it out too except that they thought this is going to hurt Trump.

Interior Secretary Alfonso Navarrete says "the fact that this is being done at a time when there are election campaigns in the country they're headed for, that's not a coincidence, that's not chance, that's the reason why."
Well, the whole thing obviously plays into Trump's hand, so if Naverette is correct that the timing is "not a coincidence", then perhaps it IS Republicans who are behind this caravan. Makes a lot more sense than the other way 'round.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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So glad to see that liberals with these "We're glad you're our neighbor" signs are willing to house large families, allow them to cook innards all day, have all-night beer parties and pay to send their 9 children to school, feed them, clothe them, etc.

But hey, in return, they will get their toilets cleaned and their lawns mowed for pennies on the dollar!
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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Its all politics and scare tactics.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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Don't worry, liberals will let these grown men move into their homes and support them. I'm sure they won't mind if they steal their Social Security numbers or rape their daughters.

Nothing is more important than getting their lawns mowed for pennies on the dollar.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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^ The liberals in many cities and suburbs like SF, NY, BOS are the most NIMBY. They fight against new housing development but yet here they are with their phony embrace of illegals.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Not a liberal, but who is advocating for that? Most sane people just want them processed through official refugee channels. Which can include denying them entry if they are not approved.

The alarmism on this caravan is through the roof. Do you know they are just a fraction of the monthly immigration numbers? Why is this a crisis...just before midterms? Who benefits from this manufactured outrage? Not the liberals in my view.
first time we see thousands enmass heading north with the intent to illegally cross. Our border patrol is geared to handle stragglers and small groups not thousands at one time. Still don't see the emergency????


Liberal mindset thinks a month old embryo isn't really a human being, same now with a horde of aliens heading north sponsored by a benefactor and we should ignore the potential crisis at the border until they are within 300 yards of the US southern border.


Actually a European characteristic demonstrated pre WW2. they kept giving ground to hitler, until it was too late. Neville Chamberlain is the poster boy for too little too late. same with Obama believing ISIS was the JV team. Lesson of the ant and the grasshopper obviously wasn't a favorite liberal bedtime story.


Additionally the anti trump contingent is blinded by their hate and cannot see that Trump is sending a clear message intended to head off the mass illegal migration as well as any other daily dose of illegal entrants. His warning will save the marchers time and energy knowing they will be turned back.


direct energy to the leaders of the countries form which the people are fleeing. Again a liberal earmark, never ever solve a problem, nurture it until such timae as it can be sued to support a political or social narrative.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:50 AM
 
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Illegal residents aren't being added to welfare rolls in large numbers....they just aren't.

In the communities I have lived in the schools and churches organize all kinds of programs to give food, gifts, etc. to those in need. Also the schools offer free lunch for those that meet the financial requirement. In the communities I have lived, those people in charge of either the community giving or even public funded welfare programs have said that overwhelmingly the illegal residents DO NOT want the hand outs. They don't want to be highlighted as a family in need...they don't want any attention. They are fearful of being on any lists -- especially government lists.

So I struggle with the whole illegal residents are a burden on our social programs.

I fear that is made bigger than it really is.

Just like the whole notion 'illegal residents' bring so much crime. Sure there are some but they aren't the source of the violence in the USA.

Having said that. Let's be adults and address the immigration problem without fan fare and rallies and chants and misinformation.

I have no problem with Trump saying he is sending troops to assist border control process the individuals in the caravan who are applying for refugee status. But that's all he has to say.

I have no problem with the President seeking legislation to make e-verify the law of the land and make individuals and corporations criminally responsible if they hire someone who doesn't have status.

I have no problem with the President following existing laws in a reasonable way.

It's just a myth that folks that roll their eyes at Trump's emotional rhetoric on immigration want open borders.

It isn't one or the other -- there is an in between.
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