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That is Democratic Party. A person might be a democrat, the party is democratic, and it lives up to it's name.
And no, the media is not in the pocket of the Democratic party. What the media and the general public have in common is a desire to know and disseminate the truth.
Trump has a problem with the truth getting around (which is why he imposes non-disclosure 'muzzling' on everyone he comes in contact with), so of course he will try to insulate his followers from the inevitable negative news stories Trump himself generates by word and misdeed. Trump does this by attacking the press, and you fall for it.
Yep. How amusing. The Trump sycophants actually believe a 47% approval rating is something to cheer about Besides, Trump isn't on the ballot.
How amusing. Yet another low information Dem who does not know that that Trump became President with 46.1% of the vote and Bill Clinton became President with 43% of the vote.
Yep. How amusing. The Trump sycophants actually believe a 47% approval rating is something to cheer about Besides, Trump isn't on the ballot.
47 is huge when you add Trump supporters to that number.
Most Trump supporters see the media as enemy, and are therefore more likely to hang-up on pollsters.
Its impossible to poll Trump supporters accurately.
Whereas most of the media is a Democrat supporter's best friend.
That is Democratic Party. A person might be a democrat, the party is democratic, and it lives up to it's name.................
The Democratic Party could not even hold a primary without front loading the results to favor the candidate chosen by party insiders.
Even Bernie honestly thought it was up to the voters, but it never was. The nominee was always going to be Hillary regardless of how the party members voted. That's not very democratic, now is it?
How do you expect him to get his message out then? The ENTIRE media is in the pocket of the democrat party...I love his social media usage. Its what truly sets the leftists off.
Nonsense. That is like saying truth is in the pocket of the democratic party.
Another NPC who doesn't believe there is media bias, how typical. Obama had 8 TIMES as much positive coverage, despite pushing Obamacare that over 60% of the people didn't want.
The problem with the general public relying on the media for the truth is that the media is bias. The media takes the truth and twists it so that they can sway the general public in whichever way they want because they know they will believe it. The same news story can be delivered in two different ways, neither in most instances are the full truth. I like to leave the media out of politics and form my own opinions based on the facts that I do my research on. There are too many "facts" out there that have been formed from bias news sources. Instead of uniting the nation, the media has instead managed to make politics divide the nation.
This "problem" you describe is nothing new and nothing we should not recognize for what it is...
We can go well back before we were born with this challenge of people telling us what to believe even if not true. Politics, religion, *, we have been forever dealing with the challenge of what others want us to believe for reasons having little to do with what is right or truth.
All these sources of news and even fake news today might be quite a bit more than yesterday, but we're all still faced with the same challenge and always will be. No one can "leave the media out of politics." Hell! We're in big trouble if the media doesn't remain an important part of informing us what is going on!
Like polls that are also legitimate data points when wanting to know if a candidate has enough critical mass in terms of support to be considered seriously, we are fortunate to have so much information at our disposal. The challenge or our short-coming has to do with the research we must also do, as you point out, the what to make of it all and why, but most of us don't have that sort of interest, patience or inclination. Easier to just believe the headline or bumper-sticker according to our political bias and preconceived notions.
This is why I'll say again, I review the headlines of about 10 news sites every morning, from Fox News to Aljazeera, for what I call "triangulating for the truth." Even just scanning the headlines of different news sites is educational, informative, telling, and the beginning of where next to go in the way of research to separate the facts from nonsense. I've got the time to do that sort of thing before getting to this forum in the mornings, but unfortunately too many Americans don't have the time either.
No matter how you look at it, ignorance is the problem, caused by all variety of reasons. The problem is not all the biased sources of news but knowing how to interpret them. Freedom of speech, the media, is a wonderful thing we have to enjoy in this country, but objective reason and critical thinking are in short supply. What to do about this other than better educate our children, I don't know, but making quality education more expensive and harder to come by is certainly NOT helping our next generation with this challenge any, and if we continue to do worse rather than better in this respect, we're pretty well screwed and will be dealing with far worse than *Trump in the years to come...
The problem with the general public relying on the media for the truth is that the media is bias.
There is no question of bias, it is baked in to every profit making business, including news organizations. This is why we have been so careful until recently to make sure no one media company controls all of the news sources in a city. That was the case until recently when the Republicans changed that to benefit conservative media investors.
We also had the Fairness Doctrine. I remember it, many young adults today have no recollection of it. Republicans canned that too, under Reagan at the urging of Roger Ailes.
People who own the media tend to be very wealthy, that is the bias. All the rest is just marketing and catering to the needs of their big advertisers.
Journalism is about accuracy. Mistakes happen but journalists post corrections to earlier versions of a story, or retract. - It has always been this way - Some people refer to these corrections as evidence of fake news, but really it is evidence of integrity.
Opinion shows are not journalism, they are entertainment. I have never seen Hannity or O'Reilly issue a correction, perhaps you have. They are not news, the Fox company says they can lie if it improves the ratings.
When Trump makes a statement, the journalists will report what he says. So will opinion shows.
If Trump lies in his statement, journalists will report that his statement contains a lie as well. That's news, that's journalism. That's the part Trump doesn't like. Trump just wants the news media to report what he says, not that what he says is untruthful.
If Trump can get people to mistrust the journalists, they won't realize that he is lying so much right at them.
Anyone else notice the deluge of "Trump is doing great"
post today?
The bots are out in full swing to make him and his administration
seem legit.
God save the world should he be reelected in 2020.
yep mass bot posting across the interwebs.
they are pumping out thousands of posts across forum after forum trying to make this election about the border and pretending the left are criminals too.
they have no policy to discuss other than taking away medicare , SS and taxing the poor so they need to distract with fake "crisis".
This "problem" you describe is nothing new and nothing we should not recognize for what it is...
We can go well back before we were born with this challenge of people telling us what to believe even if not true. Politics, religion, *, we have been forever dealing with the challenge of what others want us to believe for reasons having little to do with what is right or truth.
All these sources of news and even fake news today might be quite a bit more than yesterday, but we're all still faced with the same challenge and always will be. No one can "leave the media out of politics." Hell! We're in big trouble if the media doesn't remain an important part of informing us what is going on!
Like polls that are also legitimate data points when wanting to know if a candidate has enough critical mass in terms of support to be considered seriously, we are fortunate to have so much information at our disposal. The challenge or our short-coming has to do with the research we must also do, as you point out, the what to make of it all and why, but most of us don't have that sort of interest, patience or inclination. Easier to just believe the headline or bumper-sticker according to our political bias and preconceived notions.
This is why I'll say again, I review the headlines of about 10 news sites every morning, from Fox News to Aljazeera, for what I call "triangulating for the truth." Even just scanning the headlines of different news sites is educational, informative, telling, and the beginning of where next to go in the way of research to separate the facts from nonsense. I've got the time to do that sort of thing before getting to this forum in the mornings, but unfortunately too many Americans don't have the time either.
No matter how you look at it, ignorance is the problem, caused by all variety of reasons. The problem is not all the biased sources of news but knowing how to interpret them. Freedom of speech, the media, is a wonderful thing we have to enjoy in this country, but objective reason and critical thinking are in short supply. What to do about this other than better educate our children, I don't know, but making quality education more expensive and harder to come by is certainly NOT helping our next generation with this challenge any, and if we continue to do worse rather than better in this respect, we're pretty well screwed and will be dealing with far worse than *Trump in the years to come...
Problem isn't just ignorance, it is also WILLFUL ignorance and that is an important distinction. Ignorance is either not having the opportunity of learning, or being unable to learn. Willful ignorance is deliberately blinding oneself to the facts because to do so would invalidate their political view, or religious belief.
As far as bias in media, the bias has always been about one thing. $$$$. Sensationalism always sells better than dull factual reporting, and modern news is heavily infested with the corrupting effects of advertiser dollars. So I do the same thing as you - read a dozen different reports on any particular current event before reaching a conclusion.
“The reason this inflection point matters is that it tends to overlap – give or take a few months – with some of the most material rotations that investors make within global portfolios,” points out J.P. Morgan head of cross-asset strategy John Normand.
And the fall from grace for earnings may be worse than the market expects at the moment, suggests Morgan Stanley U.S. equity strategist Mike Wilson. The strategist, who thinks we are witnessing the start of a rolling bear market that sees riskier parts of the market sell-off first before safer ones lose steam, outlined multiple reasons to be bearish on profits into 2019. Some of them include: rising raw materials prices, surging freight costs, higher interest rates, an escalating U.S./China trade conflict and sub 3% GDP growth.
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I just wrote about this "again" this morning. The economic's that Trump touts, are the remains of the economic movement created by Obama Administration Policies, and Trump has done nothing that can even sustain it. Sadly, these sell off of the stock ticker fiction, will get larger in numbers, because investors don't stay dump very long when they see the damages mounting.
They are not new to the game and when there is political conflict, and international conflict, they know what follows... and they will Cash out of the Casino Games.... They will go to safe havens, and safe havens don't support uncontrolled expansion and fictional pretense of growth that does not really have means to sustain itself.
many of those who do read, have followed these elements of truths, and they've read them over time in various format as well as in various posting I've logged on this site.
The generalized dislike of Trump and Republicans is of the many things - a variety of such has been discussed in many post, including posting I've logged, whether Republican care to think about it or not. The people who look to a Democratic Multicultural Society, Do Care!!! that promotes dignity and integrity, not belligerence, condemnation of American's Government, Its Divisions and the larger part of America's population. #14 Post #363 Post #135 Post #350
There is absolutely nothing about American Trump has not "denigrated and belittled" - yet, he has profited from everything that American Governance has designed and created from the Federal to the State to the City Local Areas. Yet, he denigrates it as if he's some above all guru dominator over America. he tries to play himself off as "Mr. America, as if everyone in the nations is his subjects and he is the Supreme Leader of All Time.. Nothing but Self Patronizing his own overblown ego and vanity. He tries to make people think American is under attack, because people don't care for him, as if he is America, as if America can't exist without him. He talks that crap that America will fall, if he is not patronized and pandered to as if Americans must submit to him for our salvation as a nation.
To American people, "money is not everything" like it is to Trump... people care about dignity and civility, they care about making our government better from what we have, as has every President built upon the legacy of this nations government over 100's of years. Yes, Money is important its the medium of exchange, but as with people in very poor nations, even if they are broke, they still care about their country and its land..... that's been proven by American going into nations with its Trillion's of Dollars of Weaponry and being sent packing, because the people will not relinquish themselves, nor their land, and they will not be dictated over by America.
We should have long ago learned that in Vietnam... as well of how other nations come to the support of acts upon nations, as nations came to support of Vietnam as it stood against America. What ensued afterwards was Vietnam, finding it own way, and it endured it horrific tragedies to have arrived as a growing nation that it is today.
Those are Geo-Political Lessons. The British learned those lessons long ago, as they retracted the British Empire back to its own shores. Now they have "cooperative agreements and strong treaty elements and trade agreements and diplomatic ties in how they relate with the same nations it once occupied. We don't hear or see them ranting and raving about every nations there is. Trump has launched assault mentality at Europe, singling out individuals nations from Germany to the British Government. He has insulted every nations of predominately non white people, and the entire Billion plus Muslims in the world. His obsessive attack mentality at Mexico has led him to "strip people kids from their parents, and then can't have the dignity to even have documented who they are and how to reunite them with their parents.
The Republican Congress has Rubber Stamped every bit of it. The Republican party should have met its demise when Bush broke the American Economy and Destabilized the Entire Middle East and set out 20 yrs of Weapons Selling proliferation across the globe.
Every day, some "belligerent attack something mentality" is spewed from the mouth of Trump, and Republican congressmen sit silent with silent inferring their endorsing the madness.
Democratic Minded people and Liberal Concerned People simply do not have an infection of Selective Amnesia and people simply don't want to keep hearing about his "belligerence fest" and the self patronizing acts of him running around the country on Tax Payer money patronizing his vanity and ego and spewing vile at America.
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Besides, Trump isn't on the ballot.