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Old 10-23-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Republicans have the numbers to pass e-verify without a single Democrat cooperating with them.
Bingo. Leave it to Republicans to blame the Democrats for the things the Republican majority failed to do
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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I hear a lot of democrats claim that conservatives "vote against their own self interests" but I've never fully understood how anyone could vote for their own self interest by supporting candidates who in turn support illegal immigrants either through illegal immigration, sanctuary city policies or abolishing ICE.

Can anyone explain this to me? The only way I can see where it might make sense is if the voter is a legal US citizen but has family members who are illegal, otherwise I can't rationalize it.
I don't think Democrats as a whole, and certainly not as a political party, support illegal immigration. They support legal immigration, but the party does think that people who were brought here as children, and are American in everything but heritage, have only known America, go to school or work here, should be given a path to citizenship. Not people who came as adults, and thus made that choice.

Republican leadership (not the base) actually supports illegal immigration, since their donor companies use them as cheap workers w/o benefits and can't make any demands on them.

One way to stop illegal immigration is to stop companies from hiring them. But neither party focuses on that. They focus almost exclusively on the border. We should focus on the border, but should also raid the farms and companies that are using illegal immigrants as workers. Those workers undermine American wages.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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When it doesn't count US Indians who were always here and free persons. Illegal aliens are not "the People" and are more alien than US Indians. Why would you count someone who is not supposed to be here and is to be removed? Also to be a slave is a form of being considered an outsider. How many times are we going to go over this?
We don’t count Indians exempt from taxes because they were expressly carved out of the census by the Framers. The Framers did not carve out “outsiders and foreigners” no matter how much you wish they did. That’s why outsiders and foreigners living in the US are counted, but Indians exempt from taxes are not.

As I said, you’re just making things up to suit your agenda. The Constitution offers zero textual support for your claim.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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Bingo. Leave it to Republicans to blame the Democrats for the things the Republican majority failed to do
So we'll see you guys writing letters and holding up signs demanding Trump to pass everify? More effective than complaining on these forums.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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Bingo. Leave it to Republicans to blame the Democrats for the things the Republican majority failed to do
You, of course, know that some democrats need to be on board to pass laws. You do know this, don't you?
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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1. Because illegal immigrants don't actually negatively impact me. They actually improve my daily life a great deal.
2. Because I am not so dense a human being that I lack compassion and cannot imagine myself in their situation. There but for the grace of god go I.

Really? So you are exempt from paying your share of the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us? You don't give a damn about your fellow citizens who have lost their jobs to them, had their ID's stolen or lost a loved one who was killed by one of them or had some other heinous crime committed against them and you call yourself compassionate?????


Just what are they doing to improve your life? Is it all about you and no one else? What a selfish anti-American attitude! Have you no respect for the rule of law either?
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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Really? So you are exempt from paying your share of the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us? You don't give a damn about your fellow citizens who have lost their jobs to them, had their ID's stolen or lost a loved one who was killed by one of them or had some other heinous crime committed against them and you call yourself compassionate?????

Just what are they doing to improve your life? Is it all about you and no one else? What a selfish anti-American attitude! Have you no respect for the rule of law either?
The $100 billion number you cite is completely fabricated and literally every time you cite it someone provides you with a link completely debunking the source. Yet you continue to cite it. Why?
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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So we'll see you guys writing letters and holding up signs demanding Trump to pass everify? More effective than complaining on these forums.
I even provided a link proving that the Democrats blocked e-verify the last time the Republicans ask for it but these lefties just ignore it and still blame the Republicans. Must have a cement block between their ears.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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You, of course, know that some democrats need to be on board to pass laws. You do know this, don't you?
Not with a Republican majority in Congress but nice try at the blame game. The fact is, the Republicans are having a lot of trouble passing any laws with the clueless Twitterer-in-Chief at the helm.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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I even provided a link proving that the Democrats blocked e-verify the last time the Republicans ask for it but these lefties just ignore it and still blame the Republicans. Must have a cement block between their ears.
Republicans do not need a single Democrat vote to pass e-verify. Not one.
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