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Old 10-24-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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Richard Spencer is absolutely a White Nationalist and right-wing nut job.
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Richard Spencer is absolutely a White Nationalist and right-wing nut job.
Nope. He's absolutely a Marxist and a left-wing nut job (redundancy deliberate).
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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Nope. He's absolutely a Marxist and a left-wing nut job (redundancy deliberate).
Like a game of hot potato.
“No he’s your idiot!”
*toss
“No he’s your idiot!”
*toss back
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Marxists gonna Marx.
Hitler also complained that capitalism created the "race-chaos" in the cities. Where groups were intentionally brought together and then pitted against each other, preventing solidarity, to hold down wages.

Mass-immigration has always been capitalism's greatest tool for suppressing wages, and keeping the people fighting with each other.
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Richard Spencer is absolutely a White Nationalist and right-wing nut job.
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Nope. He's absolutely a Marxist and a left-wing nut job (redundancy deliberate).
Richard Spencer is a third-way Ethno-Nationalist. And every nationalist is a social-conservative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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I don't think that's logically coherent.

There can be many reasons to move to another state.

Also, I find latinas the most attractive having grown up in an area where blue eyed blondes etc. were common. Doesn't mean I think they're the master race lmao.

Come on give it a rest, that was A + 1 = Pudding type logic.
Sadly, when it comes to topics like this, some people are not interested in being logically coherent.

People have their reasons for moving to where they move to. In the case of Vermont, I'm not actively seeking to move there. However, I would consider moving there. Green Mountains, Lake Champlain, alot of snow, home of Ben and Jerry's.

And one can be attracted to those outside of their ethnicity without thinking of one race being better than another. I've been attracted to White and Hispanic women. I don't view them as "master race". Attraction is attraction.

Said person you replied to is just using a non sequitur.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why would you call him a "white supremecist"? I am guessing you don't really know what this means since you can't even spell it.

In any case, what about his actions, or his statements, renders him a "horrible human being"? Has he advocated killing anyone? Harming anyone?

What's he done exactly that makes him so horrible?
It doesn't matter what he calls himself or what others call him. A Nazi is a Nazi. That word was only a nickname until the Nazis decided to own it with pride. Spencer will own it too when he feels the timing is right.

Until then, Spencer depends on guys like you to do the quibbling of words for him. That's the way it always goes.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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The term "White", and the idea of "White-Nationalism", has always been a matter of practicality and convenience rather than fact.


We all know that white people and black people aren't the same. But white people and white people aren't the same either. Asians aren't the same as Asians. The Chinese do not thank you for calling them Koreans. Everyone basically hates the people next door. You just tolerate them either because they are tolerable, or because you have no choice.


If people were actually freely allowed to associate and form their own governments, almost all of the world would become completely homogeneous. But most white people hate each other, as much as most black people hate each other(look at Africa), as much as Asians hate each other. And the very notion of white nationalism isn't an ideal, but rather, "Well it's better than sharing a country with the blacks".


What I never understand is why there is basically no Black Nationalism. Do you really love white people that much? Why don't you want a country of your own? It can't be a "black thing" because the Africans in Africa want their countries to be for themselves stronger than almost anyone in the world.
I don't agree that there isn't racial/ethnic affinity, compatibility and interchangeability. I look at the bolded as better than not sharing America with the whole world and becoming either totally altered or destroyed. "White" in nationalism is just the default position of a historically white majority country. Nationalist countries that are not white could be called (insert ethnic) nationalist. I just consider myself a nationalist.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I don't agree that there isn't racial/ethnic affinity, compatibility and interchangeability. I look at the bolded as better than not sharing America with the whole world and becoming either totally altered or destroyed. "White" in nationalism is just the default position of a historically white majority country. Nationalist countries that are not white could be called (insert ethnic) nationalist. I just consider myself a nationalist.
I would call myself a nationalist only to the extent that I prefer that to globalism. But I despise most Americans. And I would be incredibly happy if California and New York, and pretty much most of this country, became a different country.


And why stop there? I wish most of the people in my city were in a different country, and for Trump to build a big wall between me and them. Especially anyone who votes for Democrats.


Doesn't that sound nice to you?
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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I would call myself a nationalist only to the extent that I prefer that to globalism. But I despise most Americans. And I would be incredibly happy if California and New York, and pretty much most of this country, became a different country.


And why stop there? I wish most of the people in my city were in a different country, and for Trump to build a big wall between me and them. Especially anyone who votes for Democrats.


Doesn't that sound nice to you?
I mean I do understand what you're saying. I dislike many white people. But if I had to ball park it, all the white Americans work against my druthers about 45% of the time, black people maybe 95% of time, Foreigners 98% of the time, assimilated Asians, Hispanics etc maybe 70% of the time. It's a lessor of various evils kind of thing. But there something worse about diversity, it spoils the barrel. When America was less diverse whites as a group weren't so unlikable to me. Diversity destroys cohesion for everyone.

Globalist and leftist have made white a dirty word to destroy nationalism and alter America, but it's really about nationalism vs globalism/communism.

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