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Old 11-14-2018, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This is more a freedom of expression... There is no laws to prevent being offended...

Tell the kids why people will treat them poorly if they do this,and they can decide if they want that consequence or not. But no crime was committed
Yes, but who said companies had to hire anyone, especially people who do a white supremacist symbol? Yes, but who said colleges have to let in anyone, especially people who do Nazi salutes? The answers are no. Colleges and jobs can turndown people for any reason, even doing the Zeig Hail or the "OK" symbol. I'm sure you are fine with a business turning away with any customers for any reason, so why is it any different here.
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Old 11-14-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Yes, but who said companies had to hire anyone, especially people who do a white supremacist symbol? Yes, but who said colleges have to let in anyone, especially people who do Nazi salutes? The answers are no. Colleges and jobs can turndown people for any reason, even doing the Zeig Hail or the "OK" symbol. I'm sure you are fine with a business turning away with any customers for any reason, so why is it any different here.
Not this argument again. Because the left is selectively stigmatizing whites doing certain things and enforcing PC via the private sector, then not really allowing anyone to say, "who cares, I'll hire or enroll the person anyway.". Who wants to live in a society where people make up one speech or viewpoint thing after another being offensive and an unemployable and opportunity ending offense. It's completely unAmerican.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: California
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Some look like they are waving and some have a raised fist. I doubt this is what some claim it to be but that never gets is the way of a good outrage.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:04 PM
 
Location: California
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There are thousands and thousands of people young and old who associate themselves with communism. Would that there would be as much disdain for that ideology as there is for Nazism. But instead one can openly identify as a communist and go peacefully on their way.
Even better, they can be elected to congress.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:09 PM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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From reading various articles about this on the local paper and other SM sites... here is my take. This was in May. The young men and women of the junior class (class of 2019) going to the prom meet at the steps of the Sauk Co. Courthouse as is tradition and pics are taken....more than 1. The young women were separated to take pics and the guys were separated to take pics. Here is where it is fuzzy.... various pics were taken.... apparently the photographer who has a son in the group, says he told them to say or make a Hi gesture apparently for the parents....whom I am not sure were there or not. Through all the commotion, no one knew what he said. Various folks do various hand/arm gestures, and some do stick out their arm. I do not believe the young men doing so were thinking about what they were doing, they were laughing and having fun and there was no meaning behind it. They couldn't hear well what was told of them to do so they just did something. Yes in retrospect they did a gesture that was wrong and has serious historical significance.

It is a learning experience for them and the community too, which is known to have some issues race wise as is not uncommon.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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I'm not talking about choosing applicants based on the normal criteria such as grade point averages.

If a publicly funded school denies admission to these students based solely on this picture ....then that is tantamount to government reprisal for "incorrect speech".

And if you think that's not a violation of free speech, then you need to pack up and head to Canada like y'all promised.....
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/b...ur-tweets.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...facebook-posts

And yet, again, free speech and free expression ONLY protect you from the government arresting you. It has NOTHING to do with college admissions or employers.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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Even if they did, so what? A salute is harmless, even if they were mimicking nazis. This is not a news story. Kids are kids, and will make mistakes. What should have happened was the school district showing the parents this photo and suggesting the parents talk to their kids about how "uncool" these symbols are.

What's more worrying than the kids doing the nazi salutes are the reactions in this thread. People want these kids to not be able to attend college, etc over a hand gesture. Shows you how deranged and without empathy humanity can be.
Deranged and without empathy? I think you are targeting the wrong people.

This display shows a profound lack of maturity and respect. For Heaven's sake, one of their classmates is a gay man. Gay men and women were killed by the Nazis. So, no, it's not harmless. Not one bit.

Deranged and without empathy, indeed.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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They did a silly stunt. I doubt any of them are really neo nazis or anything like that. This does not warrant a thread or news story. And if anyone is truly offended they need to put on their big boy pants and stop being offended over everything.
Again, what does that mean? "Putting on your big boy pants"? I'm not allowed to think this is grossly inappropriate? The colleges they applied to and maybe already admitted to aren't allowed to rethink their choices after this "silly stunt"? Why is it that only those who seek to be totally tone deaf and offensive have the freedom of thought and action? Why do you believe those of us who totally disagree with what they did, finding it reprehensible, should be deprived of our freedom of thought and action?
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:37 AM
 
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What the photographer says, although most of you will ignore it or call him a liar:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photograp...231828283.html
The other photos from that set show the kids in nearly the same exact position. This was no mistake. This wasn't a mid-wave. And let's talk about that for a second...even if it WERE mid-wave, what photographer would be STUPID enough to release THAT shot?

He's a liar.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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These kids aren't Nazis , and your taking joy in seeing them face repercussions or punishment is truly sick.
Many of you who are defending these kids and decrying our thoughts on natural consequences are the same.exact.people who complain that parents and society don't discipline kids enough. LOL
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