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Old 01-08-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I'd say she's more in the Screech Sanders camp than Obama. Blame the rich, promise free chit (with no plan to pay for it) and attract a horde of simple-minded losers that have never moved out of their parent's basement. The main thing she has in common with Obama is that when called on her lies and stupidity-she plays the race card.

Don't get me wrong-Obama was a terrible president and did plenty to harm this nation. But AOC takes stupid to an entirely different level. Look at the bright side-we have entertainment for a couple years...and it will beat seeing Maxine's face on the screen as the dumbest person in congress.
Please, I'm middle class and I support AOC even though I don't even live in NY anymore
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I will always support a progressive income tax, because even as I've moved up the income ladder, I haven't forgotten where I started and how hard it was; plus I'm not a bootlicker of the rich
progressive=discriminatory


I thought liberals promoted equality, not discrimination
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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If wages aren't rising, how can it be their fault? AFAIK, every year regardless of what happens, the IRS will adjust the tax brackets to account for inflation. If one's wages don't increase (increase greater than or equal to inflation), they will get essentially taxed lower and lower... until 0 income tax over decades.

We know that wages have not been keeping up for the past 40 years...

There are an estimated 10-30 million illegal immigrants in the USA who are the direct cause of this problem.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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progressive=discriminatory
Nope
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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There are an estimated 10-30 million illegal immigrants in the USA who are the direct cause of this problem.
Don't be scapegoating groups of people of which are 1-3% of the entire population.

They are not the cause of wages going down. Acting like we didn't have illegal immigration problem back in the 60s and 70s?
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The problem is is that the base cost of living is more or less the same for everybody, so that 15% would be very damaging to someone earning $20k per year, where someone earning $200k per year will still be fine
Then they need to pay up, and pool resources with what's left with others. In other words... get a roommate or two to split expenses.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Don't be scapegoating groups of people of which are 1-3% of the entire population.
Right. Wait till the number reaches 10% or 30%.

Should happen by about next month, if the Democrats get their way.

Of course, by then it will be impossible to stem the tide. The exact outcome the Dems want.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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I will always support a progressive income tax, because even as I've moved up the income ladder, I haven't forgotten where I started and how hard it was; plus I'm not a bootlicker of the rich

Not stealing their money, isn't exactly the same thing as boot-licking
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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I've always said the 50% of Americans who pay zero federal income tax, should start paying their fair share instead of using their numbers to vote to steal even more from the very people who are carrying them.
Bingo!
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Then they need to pay up, and pool resources with what's left with others. In other words... get a roommate or two to split expenses.
People earning $20k/year or less already have roommates, don't be dense
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