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Old 11-21-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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This is the "vote" that needs to be suppressed.

Election fraud scheme on L.A.'s skid row got homeless to sign fake names for cigarettes and cash, D.A. says

A forged signature swapped for $1 — or sometimes a cigarette.

The crude exchange played out hundreds of times on L.A.’s skid row during the 2016 election cycle and again this year, prosecutors said Tuesday as they announced criminal charges against nine people accused in a fraud scheme.

Using cash and cigarettes as lures, the defendants approached homeless people on skid row and asked them to forge signatures on state ballot measure petitions and voter registration forms, the district attorney’s office said. The defendants — some of whom were scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday — face several criminal charges, including circulating a petition with fake names, voter fraud and registering a fictitious person.


I'm actually shocked that they are prosecuting this.

It's frustrating that this stuff happens.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Still wouldn’t have changed the final result, California is deep blue without that tiny bit of fraud.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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From the article....it was buying signatures to get enough to meet the minimum threshold get proposals on the ballot.
Wrong, but not "voter fraud" as it is commonly understood. Not fraudulent votes for candidates or ballot questions.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:23 PM
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Why is this shocking to you, OP? Of course they're going to prosecute.


CA is actually not the lawless oppressive far-left commie hellhole right wing nutjobs make it out to be.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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From the article....it was buying signatures to get enough to meet the minimum threshold get proposals on the ballot.
Wrong, but not "voter fraud" as it is commonly understood. Not fraudulent votes for candidates or ballot questions.
Yet they were still charged with voter fraud.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Still wouldn’t have changed the final result, California is deep blue without that tiny bit of fraud.
I never said it would change anything.


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From the article....it was buying signatures to get enough to meet the minimum threshold get proposals on the ballot.
Wrong, but not "voter fraud" as it is commonly understood. Not fraudulent votes for candidates or ballot questions.

The fraudulently signed voter registrations... did you miss that?


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Why is this shocking to you, OP? Of course they're going to prosecute.


CA is actually not the lawless oppressive far-left commie hellhole right wing nutjobs make it out to be.
You're right... I'm sure they prosecute many of people.

But let's not pretend they follow the letter of law... let's not pretend that they don't bend things to get the desired outcome that they want.
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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In the famous words of Harry Reid:
"It worked. We won, didn't we."
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why assume the politics of the 9 being charged with soliciting petition signatures?
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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Far more common is voter suppression of black and minority voters of which there is a long ugly history dating back to the Jim Crow days and is still common practice today, mostly in the southern states (Georgia and Florida come to mind). But you will never hear a peep about it from republicans.
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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Yet they were still charged with voter fraud.
I hate to get all reading comprehension, but they were charged with election fraud, i.e., fraudulently trying to get something on the ballot through petition, not voter fraud (neither the homeless people nor the fraudsters were voting).
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