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Old 11-23-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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We can of course speculate on the Mueller investigation, but we can also kinda conclude that there is ZERO evidence of wrongdoing by Trump or they would have gotten him tears ago for it, Question: How will you all react to the ruling?
You clearly know nothing about Trump and his sordid tendencies.

It may very possibly happen that Mueller finds there isn't enough to actually convict and not enough evidence to say with certainty that he conspired illegally, but there is ZERO possibility that he will find no evidence of wrong-doing. Trump's whole life has been a saga of acting badly - the wife-beating, the crotch-grabbing, the racist tenant policies, the association with mobsters, the refusal to pay people to whom he owed money, the encouragement of white supremacy, the flagrant insulting everyone (even including fellow Republicans), his undermining of the First Amendment, his self-dealing "charities" - on and on.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Even if Mueller exonerates Trump of any wrongdoing the House Dems have already said they will tie him up with more than 80 investigations. Their intent is to find him at fault for something, anything, no matter how minor.

That's how they operate.
That is how the world operates. How many did Capone murder? Yet he was not in prison for murder.

Manafort is only "paying" for a relatively small amount of his crimes and lies.

It's important to note that our Justice system doesn't work the way you seem to think. The Clintons were investigated 5 years without stop (actually for 30+, but Ken Starr was only 5). This investigation was about a failed real estate deal which, unlike Trump, had nothing to do with Russian influences, ties, etc.

And what did they string up Clinton with?
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It won't work this way - because many people have already been indicted, convicted or plead.

So Trump is already tied in the matter - that is, all these people are his close associates.

Whether or not HE PERSONALLY is going to be charged with a crime is beside the point.
"Close associates"? The Russians with the facebook ads are close associates with Trump?
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: NC
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prejudging the outcome of the investigation is something each side is guilty of..lets see the outcome before trying to predict will happen.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: New York
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That is how the world operates. How many did Capone murder? Yet he was not in prison for murder.

Manafort is only "paying" for a relatively small amount of his crimes and lies.

It's important to note that our Justice system doesn't work the way you seem to think. The Clintons were investigated 5 years without stop (actually for 30+, but Ken Starr was only 5). This investigation was about a failed real estate deal which, unlike Trump, had nothing to do with Russian influences, ties, etc.

And what did they string up Clinton with?
You're living a never Trump fantasy. You believe Trump should be charged for being associated with anyone that committed any crime, even Manafort's tax evasion 13 years ago.

That there are millions who live in the same alternate reality is a sad chapter for those of us who simply see reality for what it actually is.


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well, I would think stores should be prepared for looting and arson..just in case...right?

Sad and true. ANTIFA will go off if they don't get their pound of flesh.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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prejudging the outcome of the investigation is something each side is guilty of..lets see the outcome before trying to predict will happen.
well, I would think stores should be prepared for looting and arson..just in case...right?
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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It won't work this way - because many people have already been indicted, convicted or plead.

So Trump is already tied in the matter - that is, all these people are his close associates.

Whether or not HE PERSONALLY is going to be charged with a crime is beside the point.
So guilt by association? So I assume you think Obama was guilty because of his ties to Tony Resznick?
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:43 PM
 
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The fact of the matter is that they have been trying since before Trump took office to pin something, ANYTHING on him because he is not one of the connected. They are also afraid he will expose them. In spite of ALL that has been exposed about the Clintons and their dirty dealings, people still let them have a pass. If the media weren't in bed with the Democrats, it might be easier for the average idiot to see it. If there was ANYTHING on Trump, I promise it would have been leaked by now. They are just going after people associated with him in the hopes they can get SOMEONE to say he did something criminal.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Why don't we wait until the report is released before running victory laps that may not be advised? And technically it would not be a ruling.
Why didn't anyone make that suggestion before making all the false allegations without any proof ?

We know why MSNBC & CNN didn't. Buy the news and sell the lie.
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Old 11-23-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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"Close associates"? The Russians with the facebook ads are close associates with Trump?
Manfort is.
Don Jr and his campaign staff seemed to know the Russians well.
The NRA- Russian woman has a number of ties of people close to Trump.
Cohen is married to a pro-Russian Ukranian and so are some of his close relatives or associates.
(Her Father is involved with Russian-Ukranian talks....and was supposedly give a job in the Trump org)
Trump has admitted making most of his money since going bust - from Russians.

And according to you - this is all happenstance! That's fantastic.....

Must just be coincidence that every rock turned over has Russians and Ukrainians sitting under it...and not just any Russians, special ones...of the oligarchies, etc.

Coincidence I'm sure. Mueller is going to apologize soon and say Trump and his admin and campaign and associates are all moral and ethical and patriotic Americans.
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