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View Poll Results: Should the US move forward with chip implanting of humans?
Yes! And use it to revolutionize health and wellness. 4 3.70%
Yes, but forbid health agencies from accessing the data. 2 1.85%
Yes, but write a law (perhaps a constitutional amendent) making it strictly voluntary. 4 3.70%
No, no chips in Americans, period. 96 88.89%
other (please explain below). 2 1.85%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-07-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?


Sure, that all sounds great, but I'm just not sure where should I put the telescreens so that they have an unobstructed view of all the alcoves in my house?

Oh look! Record chocolate production!

That means the ration will be increased to twenty grams!

Thank you BB!!!
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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Sure, that all sounds great, but I'm just not sure where should I put the telescreens so that they have an unobstructed view of all the alcoves in my house?

Oh look! Record chocolate production!

That means the ration will be increased to twenty grams!

Thank you BB!!!
Thankfully Oceania isn't at war with Eastasia yet. (Maybe just a trade war)
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/65880...der-their-skin

The forward-thinking, progressive Swedes are moving ahead at light speed in implanting of chips--in humans, not just in pets.




According to the link, Sweden is fast moving to a cashless society. Only one in four Swedes still use cash at least once per week. The chips make this easy.

There are some privacy concerns, to be sure.



To me, this represents not a threat, but a boon. As much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, obesity, etc). Health agencies can now monitor behavior.

Say you're 20 lbs. overweight. You have already purchased 2 chocolate bars today. Now you want to buy a third. 'Sale declined' comes up on the screen. It's no different than your credit card coming up 'declined' if you are over your credit limit. What do you think?
They've already done it. Without telling us.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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What an absolutely MORONIC thought. Like government, and big corps never abuse information, nor power. Wow, anyone that would advocate this belongs in Sweden, not here.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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What an absolutely MORONIC thought. Like government, and big corps never abuse information, nor power. Wow, anyone that would advocate this belongs in Sweden, not here.
The naivety is astounding. Of course we have been dipped in the water with Facebook, DNA tests, those "discount" cards used to track us, etc., with excuses of convenience wherein people are willing to give up their privacy for no good reason.
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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Every couple months an OP pops up pretending to ask what people think about being chipped, when the post is a 100% support, encourage, GET CHIPPED now propaganda post.

Weird.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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I asked a group of millennials the other day about whether they would be willing to have chips implanted, and their questions and answers were disturbing.
One of the main things they wanted to know was if it would interface with their thoughts/brain. This of course would presumably be a bad thing, but they relished the idea of being able to access FB, YT, and other social media/entertainment directly as a interface into their mind.
I asked if it were possible, would they want such technology implanted in them, and cringed as I waited for the obvious answer to come (considering how they lit up with such questions).
Sure enough their first thoughts were being able to expand on what they already have become zombies doing, that being entertained and interacting on social media. These mental midgets have been raised to be such narcissist that they honestly believe everything they eat, think, and expel via waste matter, is of great importance to inform all their friends about.

When I brought up Big Brother and privacy concerns most had never read 1984, nor did they seem concerned about the few things I brought up as a potential negative consequence. Instead they seemed more interested in immediate gratification from such a device, and the consequences if real, be damned.

I would also note that the OP brought this up under the guise of potentially scoring a person based on their habits, and having restrictions on what some government bureaucrat would deem unhealthy behavior.
I suppose leftist actually want such control, as does communist China.
As some of you interested in this subject undoubtedly know, the Chinese government asked Google to provide a search system for them that could be monitored and scored.
If the person being scored at the end of the year reached too many red flags/strikes, there could be consequences, such as limits on public transportation and the like. All with the express intention of controlling and modifying behavior the ruling class felt inappropriate.
Why our younger generation does not see that our present constitutional republic protects them from such things, and they seem willing to ignore the potential of such abuses, is very disconcerting.

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Old 12-09-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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They've already done it. Without telling us.
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if more people have chips implanted in them already, but are not aware of them.


The nice thing about comp chips though, if you can find the area of the body they are, its pretty easy to short them out.
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Every couple months an OP pops up pretending to ask what people think about being chipped, when the post is a 100% support, encourage, GET CHIPPED now propaganda post.

Weird.
As I said, the CDC says that as much as 75% of health care costs are behavior-related (smoking, drinking, etc). According to CMS.gov, US health care spending is now $3.5 trillion per year, or $10,739 per person per year. Chopping that down to 25% would save us $2.6 trillion.

We could pay off our entire national debt in 11 years with that. Now, wouldn't that be nice!!??
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