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Old 12-10-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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To those of you who believe that Trump is being persecuted by the Deep State, Why is he not out of office? Don't you think the Deep State would have prevented him from taking power in the first place and if when he did have a plan to take care of it by now? I think keeping someone in power as long as he has would work against any attempt by the Deep State to undermine him...
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I'm not sure about Trump being persecuted, but I do believe there's a "deep state"...I'd just say that if they do anything too obvious like preventing him from taking power, that would raise a lot of red flags for people.

Long story short, priority #1 is making sure the population still buys into the current system. As much as they might dislike Trump, it's worse to do something stupid that makes everyone question the system altogether.

But as I said, I don't know if it's a big conspiracy or not...just using common sense.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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I still have no idea what this deep state thing is but if it’s coming from the mouths or tiny fingers of cons, you know it’s a lie.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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To those of you who believe that Trump is being persecuted by the Deep State, Why is he not out of office? Don't you think the Deep State would have prevented him from taking power in the first place and if when he did have a plan to take care of it by now? I think keeping someone in power as long as he has would work against any attempt by the Deep State to undermine him...
Because they have to make removing him look legitimate. They have to pin something on him, whether it's a fake Russia claim or some financial crime. They can't just remove him because he beat Hillary even though that's the real reason they all want him gone. They know if they just removed him this country would destroy itself.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I do believe there is entrenched bureaucracies in all levels of government that don’t always kowtow to those currently in office but the deep state stuff is a bit absurd.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:39 PM
 
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To those of you who believe that Trump is being persecuted by the Deep State, Why is he not out of office? Don't you think the Deep State would have prevented him from taking power in the first place and if when he did have a plan to take care of it by now? I think keeping someone in power as long as he has would work against any attempt by the Deep State to undermine him...

63,000,000 supporters whose support is unwavering and venues filled beyond capacity wherever Trump goes has scared & shakened them badly. Their usual methods have failed. Their world came crashing down at ~10pm EST Nov 8, 2016. And there's now a lot of CYA.

All they have left is an army of NPCs who, apparently, will believe anything told to them without thought or question who go on daily and endless with "orange man bad". But they have been recognized for what they are along with the crooked MSM so that fails too. The fact that Trump did so well, in the mid terms, as compared to any president in modern history, speaks to this.

Hope that clears it up for you.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The "deep state" is simply the banking families that control the money supply. There's never been a real democracy or republic in the first place so to believe that there's a "state within the state" is a bit foolish.

Trump hasn't done anything out of the ordinary for your typical run-of -the-mill Statist puppet: trillions upon trillions spent, drone strikes continued, gun restrictions tightened. He's Obama's 3rd term or Dubya's 5th...whichever you prefer.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm not sure about Trump being persecuted, but I do believe there's a "deep state"...I'd just say that if they do anything too obvious like preventing him from taking power, that would raise a lot of red flags for people.

Long story short, priority #1 is making sure the population still buys into the current system. As much as they might dislike Trump, it's worse to do something stupid that makes everyone question the system altogether.

But as I said, I don't know if it's a big conspiracy or not...just using common sense.
You're talking from the sane point of view that this is all a sham to begin with though. There are people who honestly believe that Trump is different from Obama who was different from Bush who was different from Clinton and on and on.

We call these people Statists and they are well over 99% of the population. So as you noted, the money will be printed, stolen, and spent. The circus elections will be had. Dead former heads-of-states will be celebrated as gods (McCain, Bush Sr.). Everything is running smooth as silk.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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To those of you who believe that Trump is being persecuted by the Deep State, Why is he not out of office? Don't you think the Deep State would have prevented him from taking power in the first place and if when he did have a plan to take care of it by now? I think keeping someone in power as long as he has would work against any attempt by the Deep State to undermine him...
They don't know what to do with Trump.......hence lying and finally throwing Muellers kitchen sink at him......
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